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In a recent exchange I had on Facebook where I post links to my podcasts. The person stated a list of names of all these important people within religion and how their point of view should not be doubted or questioned.
My reply to him was simple. I do not place my belief in anything any humans say. I listen only to the words of Jesus Christ. I then pointed out this verse:
2 Corinthians 13:1 – This is the third time I am coming to visit you (and as the Scriptures say, “The facts of every case must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses”).
Which has its foundation here:
Deuteronomy 19:15 – “You must not convict anyone of a crime on the testimony of only one witness. The facts of the case must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
I then stated that I had shown three times Jesus Christ Himself stated salvation can be lost. (John 15:1-6; Matthew 7:21-23 and 25:1-13.
I could also have stated Revelation 3:1-6 and 3:15-16.
That is nearly double the required witness needed from the words spoken by Jesus Christ Himself to end any argument. However, it is still argued.
Because people do not wish to end their own “godhood.” They do not wish to surrender to the Scriptures.
Proverbs 30:1-9 – The sayings of Agur son of Jakeh contain this message. I am weary, O God; I am weary and worn out, O God. 2 I am too stupid to be human, and I lack common sense. 3 I have not mastered human wisdom, nor do I know the Holy One. 4 Who but God goes up to heaven and comes back down? Who holds the wind in his fists? Who wraps up the oceans in his cloak? Who has created the whole wide world? What is his name—and his son’s name? Tell me if you know! 5 Every word of God proves true. He is a shield to all who come to him for protection. 6 Do not add to his words, or he may rebuke you and expose you as a liar. 7 O God, I beg two favors from you; let me have them before I die. 8 First, help me never to tell a lie. Second, give me neither poverty nor riches! Give me just enough to satisfy my needs. 9 For if I grow rich, I may deny you and say, “Who is the LORD?” And if I am too poor, I may steal and thus insult God’s holy name.
Two key elements emerge in these verses. The most important:
“Every word of God proves true. He is a shield to all who come to him for protection. Do not add to his words, or he may rebuke you and expose you as a liar.”
“First, help me never to tell a lie. Second, give me neither poverty nor riches! Give me just enough to satisfy my needs.”
Let us explore this second point further before we return to the more important verses.
So let us look at verse 8 in the KJV:
Proverbs 30:8 – Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:
Vanity – H7723 – shav – in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive); literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjectively), uselessness (as deceptive; objectively; also adverbially in vain) uses include false (-ly), lying, vain, vanity, emptiness.
- Guile – insidious cunning in attaining a goal; crafty or artful deception; duplicity. – Dictionary.com
Convenient – H2706 – choq – something prescribed or owed, necessary.
Do not seek after things that will cause a person to be vain. Possessions, and those possessions that go well beyond a need like just enough to cover our nakedness and shelter us from the weather. but also, not to lie. Not to be rich for being rich will cause people to deny God. Only seek enough to meet a person’s needs.
Therefore, people do not wish to accept that salvation can be lost. Because then they would have to acknowledge God. Why? Because they do not wish to surrender their vanity. Their expensive home that is too big for them. That is filled with the possessions that are idols to their true god… themselves.
They embrace the lie of once saved always saved for they do not wish to accept that they of all people would be rejected by God.
Vanity – the fact that you are too interested in your appearance or achievements per Cambridge dictionary.
So let us now move on to the more important verses this time in the KJV:
Proverbs 30:5-6 – Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
So as shown in the verses from Matthew, John, and Revelation. Then those that insist upon once saved always saved, have added to the word’s of God.
Let us now turn once again to Galatians:
Galatians 1:6-10 – I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to himself through the loving mercy of Christ. You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News 7 but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ. 8 Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. 9 I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed. 10 Obviously, I’m not trying to win the approval of people, but of God. If pleasing people were my goal, I would not be Christ’s servant.
Those that teach the doctrine of once saved always saved are seeking to win the approval of people not God. and so have cursed themselves:
“Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you.”
Now I know this was Paul who wrote these words, but what words did Peter teach. Someone who walked and talked in person with Jesus:
2 Peter 2:1-9 – But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them. In this way, they will bring sudden destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. 3 In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed. 4 For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell, in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the day of judgment. 5 And God did not spare the ancient world—except for Noah and the seven others in his family. Noah warned the world of God’s righteous judgment. So God protected Noah when he destroyed the world of ungodly people with a vast flood. 6 Later, God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and turned them into heaps of ashes. He made them an example of what will happen to ungodly people. 7 But God also rescued Lot out of Sodom because he was a righteous man who was sick of the shameful immorality of the wicked people around him. 8 Yes, Lot was a righteous man who was tormented in his soul by the wickedness he saw and heard day after day. 9 So you see, the Lord knows how to rescue godly people from their trials, even while keeping the wicked under punishment until the day of final judgment.
Just so we understand each other let us read verse one of this chapter in the KJV:
2 Peter 2:1 -But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Peter verifies the words of Jesus Christ. That those that were born again and had accepted Christ as their Savior. Turned their backs upon Him to teach false doctrines. For all they were after was money for their own idolatry, and so they have deceived many into following their twisted versions of the Bible to be cursed by God Himself.
Again, this is not me saying this. This is the Bible saying it.
Already people will be throwing out verse after verse of God’s undying love for all. I have never questions these scriptures ever. Yet how many have read the book of Hosea.
Hosea 1:2 – When the LORD first began speaking to Israel through Hosea, he said to him, “Go and marry a prostitute, so that some of her children will be conceived in prostitution. This will illustrate how Israel has acted like a prostitute by turning against the LORD and worshiping other gods.”
Hosea 3:1 – Then the LORD said to me, “Go and love your wife again, even though she commits adultery with another lover. This will illustrate that the LORD still loves Israel, even though the people have turned to other gods and love to worship them.”
Hosea 4:1-4 – Hear the word of the LORD, O people of Israel! The LORD has brought charges against you, saying: “There is no faithfulness, no kindness, no knowledge of God in your land. 2 You make vows and break them; you kill and steal and commit adultery. There is violence everywhere—one murder after another. 3 That is why your land is in mourning, and everyone is wasting away. Even the wild animals, the birds of the sky, and the fish of the sea are disappearing. 4 “Don’t point your finger at someone else and try to pass the blame! My complaint, you priests, is with you.
Hosea 9:1-2 – O people of Israel, do not rejoice as other nations do. For you have been unfaithful to your God, hiring yourselves out like prostitutes, worshiping other gods on every threshing floor. 2 So now your harvests will be too small to feed you. There will be no grapes for making new wine.
Hosea 10:1-2 – How prosperous Israel is—a luxuriant vine loaded with fruit. But the richer the people get, the more pagan altars they build. The more bountiful their harvests, the more beautiful their sacred pillars. 2 The hearts of the people are fickle; they are guilty and must be punished. The LORD will break down their altars and smash their sacred pillars.
Hosea 11:1-2 – “When Israel was a child, I loved him, and I called my son out of Egypt. 2 But the more I called to him, the farther he moved from me, offering sacrifices to the images of Baal and burning incense to idols.
Hosea 12:2-10 – Now the LORD is bringing charges against Judah. He is about to punish Jacob for all his deceitful ways, and pay him back for all he has done. 3 Even in the womb, Jacob struggled with his brother; when he became a man, he even fought with God. 4 Yes, he wrestled with the angel and won. He wept and pleaded for a blessing from him. There at Bethel he met God face to face, and God spoke to him— 5 the LORD God of Heaven’s Armies, the LORD is his name! 6 So now, come back to your God. Act with love and justice, and always depend on him. 7 But no, the people are like crafty merchants selling from dishonest scales—they love to cheat. 8 Israel boasts, “I am rich! I’ve made a fortune all by myself! No one has caught me cheating! My record is spotless!” 9 “But I am the LORD your God, who rescued you from slavery in Egypt. And I will make you live in tents again, as you do each year at the Festival of Shelters. 10 I sent my prophets to warn you with many visions and parables.”
There will be those that protest to these verses. Saying they are for the Jewish people only. I counter with this. Do you not call yourselves “Christian?” Then are you not children of God? if you are not children of God then who are you the children of? Baal?
If you say you are of Christ, then you are a child of God. You too can be fickle and cheat and lie and be cut off and punished. You are not better than the Jewish people.
Romans 2:9-11 – There will be trouble and calamity for everyone who keeps on doing what is evil—for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. 10 But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all who do good—for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. 11 For God does not show favoritism.
The entire Bible is for all to read, study and learn of God. To know how to live a truly Christian life. Which means to only live within our needs and not our wants. Once we meet our needs, we are to give the rest away to those in dire straits.
There should be no poverty in a Christian nation. There should be no hunger in a Christian nation. There should be no one rich in a Christian nation. There should be no need for a government to dictate how people should use their money in a Christian nation. For those that are Christian and are fully following the Word of God will give most of their wealth away:
2 Corinthians 9:6-15 – Remember this—a farmer who plants only a few seeds will get a small crop. But the one who plants generously will get a generous crop. 7 You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don’t give reluctantly or in response to pressure. “For God loves a person who gives cheerfully.” 8 And God will generously provide all you need. Then you will always have everything you need and plenty left over to share with others. 9 As the Scriptures say, “They share freely and give generously to the poor. Their good deeds will be remembered forever.” 10 For God is the one who provides seed for the farmer and then bread to eat. In the same way, he will provide and increase your resources and then produce a great harvest of generosity in you. 11 Yes, you will be enriched in every way so that you can always be generous. And when we take your gifts to those who need them, they will thank God. 12 So two good things will result from this ministry of giving—the needs of the believers in Jerusalem will be met, and they will joyfully express their thanks to God. 13 As a result of your ministry, they will give glory to God. For your generosity to them and to all believers will prove that you are obedient to the Good News of Christ. 14 And they will pray for you with deep affection because of the overflowing grace God has given to you. 15 Thank God for this gift too wonderful for words!
This is why I do not take the words of men over that of God. This is why I study the Bible. This why you should not take my word for it, but to study the Bible for yourselves. To see who is telling the truth and who is adding to the Word of God for their own worldly legacy and glory.
Isaiah 65:17 – “Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore.
For to seek after anything here on this earth and to create a legacy for yourself is not to be a child of God but truly a child of Baal. Then as Baal, they will be forgotten. God Bless