Intro
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Discussion
Time to time I dig up one of my old blog posts. This is one of those times. This one is how people present the love of Jesus Christ.
Message after message from the dais in the buildings called “churches” is “Jesus loves you” or “Jesus loves you as you are.”
It is true that yes both Jesus and His Father love you, but here is the problem with these messages, especially the latter one.
Because of this love if you come to Jesus as you are, He will accept you, but if you truly ask Jesus Christ into your life, you will learn that “as you are” in all cases is not enough to maintain your salvation.
Many at this point will scoff and bluster but it is true.
1 John 3:6-10 NKJV – Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.
Hebrews 10:26-27 NKJV – For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
1 Corinthians 10:13 NKJV – No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.
1 John 2:3-6 NKJV – Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
Galatians 5:19-21 NKJV – Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
What you have read or just heard did not come from me. These are the Bible. This is what those on the dais should be telling you. They should say, yes God loves you, but once Jesus is TRULY in you sin will bring great inner conflict at times, remorse and sorrow at the least, if you continue to live in any sin. Will we be able to shed all sin? No, for we are imperfect beings. But major sins will be a burden upon us to cast away.
Any that say “Jesus will love you exactly as you are forever” is a liar and they have shown who they truly follow, and it is not Jesus Christ.
Proverbs 13:24 NKJV – He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.
Any parent that does not spank their child when they have done wrong hates them and wishes them to be dead. Dead as in not alive with the love of Jesus Christ and have the ability through His salvation to live an eternal life.
Now spankings come in many forms. Not just a hit on the rear end. It is also to be verbally scolded when you do wrong and sins are wrong, ALL sin. If you are not admonished, then they truly do not desire you to have eternal joy and happiness. This is what this means that they hate you.
This also goes to teaching people the Bible. If you do not do as the Bible says to teach them all that is within the Bible. To tell them that if they live in sin they will never be welcomed into heaven, then those that do not teach the Bible or teach the Bible correctly have only one goal in mind. To have you join them in the pit of fire in eternal agony and pain as worms eat upon your undying flesh as it is lashed with fire.
Many misuse the word “love” this way. This caused me to write another posting:
There is a big misconception going about that needs to be addressed. In one of my previous posts “The hippie Jesus is alive and well but the true Christ is hard to find.” I tried to point out that love is not all happiness and joy and all is right with the world.
First, we must remember that in proverbs it states that if a parent truly loves their child they would not spare the rod. I.e. spank them. Yet in today’s society that is something that is evil and taboo. It is amazing how what is right and good is suddenly the opposite. Big sign of troubles coming to this world, yet most will just laugh it off and stop reading or listening here just because I worded my sentence that way.
True love from a parent is not easy. They suffer as much as the child when they are forced to punish them, do you think God is any less upset?
When you allow a sin to grow. All those that allow it to grow actually say they hate the world and those they allow to sin. Now I am not saying go out and force people not to sin. That will never happen and then I would be the fanatic some of you already think I am.
A new awakening is now taking place. The world is now drawing the lines between those that will choose God and those that will choose sin. This line is not a straight line as many would assume but it cuts throughout groups that though themselves to be churches and those that have always thought they were not. It cuts across races, creeds and sexes.
What you need to understand is that those that are truly “Loved” by God avoid sin, for they have felt the guilt and discomfort sin brings into their lives. Those that deny God’s love embrace sin and embrace those that embrace sin. Once again, the world is returning to black and white, sinner and saint, bad and good. Which side of the line do you stand upon?
If you stand with God and place Him first, you have only one choice. Reject the sin and accept God.
Matthew 12:30 NKJV – He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.
One of the greatest verses to me personally about love is found in Revelation.
Revelation 3:19 NKJV – As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
Rebuke – G1651 – elegchó – to expose, convict, admonish.
Chasten – G3811 – paideuó – discipline (by punishment), educate, train, correct, learn.
If those upon the dais and behind the pulpit only teach love and nothing else. They are not teaching love; they are teaching hate. For they hate and wish all to join them in the second death.
Any who continually says love, love, love. Despise and truly wish you to experience eternal damnation.
If they truly love you, they will strive to tell you that to live in sin is bad. They will strive to help you to follow the laws found and taught within the Word of God.
Along these lines. Those that push not to fear also are teaching those that listen to live in sin. For this breeds pride and a haughty attitude. What does the Bible tell us when this occurs?
Proverbs 8:13 NKJV – The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; Pride and arrogance and the evil way And the perverse mouth I hate.
By fearing God, we hate evil, pride and arrogance. Yet I know of many that take extreme pride to the point of arrogance. For having the Lord within them makes them gods on earth and they can achieve anything they desire here on earth.
By thinking they can receive and achieve anything here on earth this shows one thing. They are not worshipping God through Jesus Christ. Then who are they worshipping?
Luke 4:6 NKJV – And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.
Any who receives earthly rewards are receiving their rewards from the father of all lies himself and it is he they worship. For they are rewarded with earthly treasures.
1 John 2:15-16 NLT – Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world.
When people teach messages like this. This is love. For they are striving to rebuke and chasten those listening or reading with the Truth of the Word of God.
So, what is the fate of those that do nothing but teach love, love, love and you can receive anything through God being within you?
Galatians 1:6-10 NLT – I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to himself through the loving mercy of Christ. You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ. Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed. Obviously, I’m not trying to win the approval of people, but of God. If pleasing people were my goal, I would not be Christ’s servant.
They are twice over cursed. Cursed to damnation. Repent for time is running out.
God Bless