Intro

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Discussion

There are many out there who have become reliant upon this belief that a person cannot lose their salvation. As has been shown throughout several of my podcasts this is not a true doctrine. For Christ Himself makes it clear in John 15:1-10, Matthew 7:21-23, and 25:1-13 salvation can be lost.

Right this moment several are railing against what I have just said.

They need to calm down and think a moment.

I have pointed to three times Jesus said it is possible. Not me. Jesus Christ. So, who is it they are anger with? It is not me. I didn’t say this. Our Savior said it.

I will let that sink in a second.

When you show the words from Jesus Christ Himself, and they still wish to challenge and argue. What does this make those that insist upon doing this?

Pharisees.

In Matthew 23 Jesus confronted the Pharisees and Sadducees about their behavior. How they had changed or made laws to make themselves look important and make it hard for others to come to stand before God. They had created and follow a false teaching.

What does Peter say about false teachers?

2 Peter 2:1-3 – But there were also false prophets in Israel, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly teach destructive heresies and even deny the Master who bought them. In this way, they will bring sudden destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of these teachers, the way of truth will be slandered. 3 In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed.

Let us look at this in the KJV:
2 Peter 2:1-3 – But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

“Even denying the Lord that bought them.”

Therefore, these people knew salvation through Jesus Christ. They turned against the Word of God to preach what was pleasing to their ears. Just as the Pharisees did.

It is here that someone says: “Well they were never saved in the first place.”

Again, the words of a Pharisee.

Romans 10:9-10 – If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved.

Once anyone does this they are saved. Do they fall prey to those within 2 Peter chapter two?

2 Peter 2:12-22 – These false teachers are like unthinking animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed. They scoff at things they do not understand, and like animals, they will be destroyed. 13 Their destruction is their reward for the harm they have done. They love to indulge in evil pleasures in broad daylight. They are a disgrace and a stain among you. They delight in deception even as they eat with you in your fellowship meals. 14 They commit adultery with their eyes, and their desire for sin is never satisfied. They lure unstable people into sin, and they are well trained in greed. They live under God’s curse. 15 They have wandered off the right road and followed the footsteps of Balaam son of Beor, who loved to earn money by doing wrong. 16 But Balaam was stopped from his mad course when his donkey rebuked him with a human voice. 17 These people are as useless as dried-up springs or as mist blown away by the wind. They are doomed to blackest darkness. 18 They brag about themselves with empty, foolish boasting. With an appeal to twisted sexual desires, they lure back into sin those who have barely escaped from a lifestyle of deception. 19 They promise freedom, but they themselves are slaves of sin and corruption. For you are a slave to whatever controls you. 20 And when people escape from the wickedness of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and then get tangled up and enslaved by sin again, they are worse off than before. 21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life. 22 They prove the truth of this proverb: “A dog returns to its vomit.” And another says, “A washed pig returns to the mud.”

As you can tell the answer is yes.

But whose fault is it that this happens?

The babe in Christ or those that are mature in the Lord?

       1 Peter 2:1-12 – So get rid of all evil behavior. Be done with all deceit, hypocrisy, jealousy, and all unkind speech. 2 Like newborn babies, you must crave pure spiritual milk so that you will grow into a full experience of salvation. Cry out for this nourishment, 3 now that you have had a taste of the Lord’s kindness. 4 You are coming to Christ, who is the living cornerstone of God’s temple. He was rejected by people, but he was chosen by God for great honor. 5 And you are living stones that God is building into his spiritual temple. What’s more, you are his holy priests. Through the mediation of Jesus Christ, you offer spiritual sacrifices that please God. 6 As the Scriptures say, “I am placing a cornerstone in Jerusalem, chosen for great honor, and anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.” 7 Yes, you who trust him recognize the honor God has given him. But for those who reject him, “The stone that the builders rejected has now become the cornerstone.” 8 And, “He is the stone that makes people stumble, the rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they do not obey God’s word, and so they meet the fate that was planned for them. 9 But you are not like that, for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God’s very own possession. As a result, you can show others the goodness of God, for he called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light. 10 “Once you had no identity as a people; now you are God’s people. Once you received no mercy; now you have received God’s mercy.” 11 Dear friends, I warn you as “temporary residents and foreigners” to keep away from worldly desires that wage war against your very souls. 12 Be careful to live properly among your unbelieving neighbors. Then even if they accuse you of doing wrong, they will see your honorable behavior, and they will give honor to God when he judges the world.

2 Timothy 2:14-26 – Remind everyone about these things, and command them in God’s presence to stop fighting over words. Such arguments are useless, and they can ruin those who hear them. 15 Work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth. 16 Avoid worthless, foolish talk that only leads to more godless behavior. 17 This kind of talk spreads like cancer, as in the case of Hymenaeus and Philetus. 18 They have left the path of truth, claiming that the resurrection of the dead has already occurred; in this way, they have turned some people away from the faith. 19 But God’s truth stands firm like a foundation stone with this inscription: “The LORD knows those who are his,” and “All who belong to the LORD must turn away from evil.” 20 In a wealthy home some utensils are made of gold and silver, and some are made of wood and clay. The expensive utensils are used for special occasions, and the cheap ones are for everyday use. 21 If you keep yourself pure, you will be a special utensil for honorable use. Your life will be clean, and you will be ready for the Master to use you for every good work. 22 Run from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love, and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts. 23 Again I say, don’t get involved in foolish, ignorant arguments that only start fights. 24 A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people. 25 Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people’s hearts, and they will learn the truth. 26 Then they will come to their senses and escape from the devil’s trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants.

The answer is both.

Those with the knowledge should help those lacking in the Word of God to know what the True Gospel is. And as noted not to get into arguments over details. However, those that are young in the Lord should be willing to listen. They should as well verify on their own by reading the Bible for themselves. For when you study the Bible you are learning what God desires for all that call themselves “Christian.” That is why it is so important to truly study the Bible. Thus, by learning the Scriptures yourself you will not be dependent upon the flowable humans. Many of which embrace false teachings and due to not studying the Bible for themselves are not aware of it.

2 Timothy2:15 – Study and be eager and do your utmost to present yourself to God approved (tested by trial), a workman who has no cause to be ashamed, correctly analyzing and accurately dividing [rightly handling and skillfully teaching] the Word of Truth. (Amplified Classic)

Our duties to God through Jesus Christ is to know the Bible. All the Bible.

I have encountered those that say the letters that occur after the book of Acts and before the book of Tribulation are not the scripture. I say this:

2 Timothy 3:16 – All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.

Just think on these words for a moment.

This came from one of these letters. It shows us, just as the verse from the same letter did earlier. That we have an active responsibility in our relationship with God through Christ.

That not only the rest of the Bible, but these letters are useful to teach us how to be a reflection of Jesus Christ and how we are to live our lives. Through our behavior and actions towards others. These are work and deeds referred to in James 2:14-26.

This is how we do not end up being Pharisees, otherwise known as hypocrites. Also known as the lukewarm of Revelation 3:15-16.

Therefore, seek out the Lord by learning the Bible. Not by just reading it but studying it. So, you will know the true meaning of what is written within it.

God Bless.