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The warnings of lost salvation


In the Bible there is three passages where Jesus Christ Himself says that those that are one with God can be removed from what they have found. The first is in John 15, the next two take place in the third chapter of the book of Revelation.
In John 15 it is established that Jesus Himself is the grape vine and so any branch on the vine is a part of Jesus Christ and so it can be said they have been saved. It states that we are to bear fruit. The key elements to bearing fruit is by living our lives as is taught within the Bible, simply letting Jesus Christ into our life, as well as a few other things, but that is the key element.
Those that do not bear fruit are cut from the vine of Jesus Christ by God Himself. This dead branch is then given over to man and then into the fire.
Now when Jesus talks of fire especially in this context He is referring to the pit of fire. The last home of those that have turned their backs upon God.
John 15: 1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
The examples from Revelation come from the glorified form of Jesus Christ as He tells John to write to certain churches that existed at the time that John wrote the letters and Revelation. In His letter to Sardis Christ makes reference to the Book of Life. Please pay close attention to the wording:
Revelation 3: 5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
“Blot out” is the word “exaleipho” in the Greek. This defines as: I wipe away, I plaster, wash over; I wipe off, wipe out, obliterate. This clearly implies that it was there.
In both the imagery is clear. Those mentioned ARE a part of Jesus Christ, but this to happen they have to be saved, for you can only get into heaven if you are “born again” (John 3:3). This will make you a part of the vine and ensure your name is written in the Book of Life.
In the third example it is Christ’s statement to the lukewarm or those that belief that the world is not black and white but grey.
Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Now again we must reconcile with the understanding that Jesus is talking to those that have asked Jesus Christ into their hearts. Now though they live a life that is not driven by God, Jesus or the Bible, but by what makes them happy. These are those I refer to as the “Sunday Christians.” They go to church on Sunday sing to God and Jesus, praise and pray to them, then the moment they leave church all bets are off. It is dog eat dog and may the best person win. This is the majority of those that profess to be “Christian” today. They are the “lukewarm.” They are an abhorrence to Jesus and sickens Him so much He spits them from His Body. Again we must understand if He can spit them out they have to have been a part of Him in the first place.
This brings me to 2 Peter 2 where how it will be for the end times. This chapter covers a lot and it should be read and re-read till it sinks in. What is to follow is extremely important to read and understand so I will show it in King James and in New Living Translation
2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
20 And when people escape from the wickedness of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and then get tangled up and enslaved by sin again, they are worse off than before. 21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life.
Now look at John 3:
3 Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the Kingdom of God.” 4 “What do you mean?” exclaimed Nicodemus. “How can an old man go back into his mother’s womb and be born again?” 5 Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. 6 Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. 7 So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.’
When you are truly born again in the Holy Spirit you are saved and one of the Body of Christ. You are listed in the Book of Life. You become a branch upon the vine of Jesus Christ.
But if you are broken off of the vine, and spit out of the Body then your name is no longer in the Book of Life.
Revelation 20:15 And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.

I did not say this. These are not me reading things into the Bible that are not there. This is plain language. This is Jesus Christ HIMSELF saying the words. If you deny His words you are denying Him. Any that deny Him, He will deny to His father.
Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

You just can’t say “I am Christian”


Most in today’s world go about their lives and thing they are fine with God. All they have to do is say “I am Christian” or “I am Catholic” or even “I am Muslim” and they believe they are going to heaven.
Sorry to say this, but it doesn’t work that way.
Then there are those that say “I am saved” or “I am born again.” Yet they show no visible signs of this salvation. As you look at them, as you watch their behavior they seem like all others. Act like all others. Well that is because they are like all others. They have lost the very salvation they thought they had received.
2 Peter 2:20 – And when people escape from the wickedness of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and then get tangled up and enslaved by sin again, they are worse off than before. 21 It would be better if they had never known the way to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to live a holy life. 22 They prove the truth of this proverb: “A dog returns to its vomit.” And another says, “A washed pig returns to the mud.”
True salvation brings about a change in the person. What they once loved becomes something that no longer brings them happiness. Their hearts and they minds change, but as can be seen above. There will be those that say “Okay now that you are saved you are free to live as you like.” This is a lie.
For with true desire to serve God through Jesus Christ there comes a need to stop living in sin. Any sin. It is made clear in John 15 that you can be saved. You can be a part of the vine of Jesus Christ. Yet you bear no fruit showing your salvation. God sees this and sees that your branch is dead upon the vine. So God Himself breaks you off and cast you to humanity. Who gathers you up and then cast you into the fire. The fire of damnation, not salvation.
It is not faith or love of God alone. It is both faith and works.
James 2:14 – What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone? 15 Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, 16 and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do? 17 So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless. 18 Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? I will show you my faith by my good deeds.” 19 You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. 20 How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless? 21 Don’t you remember that our ancestor Abraham was shown to be right with God by his actions when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see, his faith and his actions worked together. His actions made his faith complete. 23 And so it happened just as the Scriptures say: “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.” He was even called the friend of God. 24 So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone. 25 Rahab the prostitute is another example. She was shown to be right with God by her actions when she hid those messengers and sent them safely away by a different road. 26 Just as the body is dead without breath, so also faith is dead without good works.
Faith is dead without works. But what are the works? The works are the teachings of Jesus Christ and His apostles. They are the commandments. Which is not just the twelve commandments (yes 12). But those commandments that were not directly changed by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ upon the cross. You must seek to live these teachings, every single hour, of every single day, of every single month, of every single year, for the rest of your live.
Will you stumble and fall? Yes. For none are perfect. But if you cling onto a sin and refuse to reject it. That sin is your god. That sin is you master. That sin is your damnation. God is to be the center of your lives. Not ourselves or our lust and desires. If you place anything other than God at the center of your life. Then that is your god. That is what you worship. Be it money, sports, clothes, a home.
The only way to true salvation is to surrender yourself to God through Jesus Christ. To abandon sin. To not live in sin. For as long as you desire the world. Then that is your fate.
Romans 1:18 – But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. 21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. 23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved. 28 Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. 29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. 30 They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. 31 They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. 32 They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

“Once saved always saved” verses “faith without works is dead.”


This is something that is extremely important for all to understand. The Bible does not work against itself.
So if the Bible makes it extremely clear that faith alone is not enough. How is the statement “once saved always saved” possible?
The answer is simple it is not.
This man-made doctrine would also negate the term “lukewarm,” which is exactly what those promoting this wish to have happen.
You see we are in the age of the “lukewarm,” per the book of Revelation. You see the order in which each letter to the churches by Jesus Christ in the book of Revelation is also chronological. The last church is the lukewarm church. Yes these churches can exist concurrently at this very moment, but if you really look into the situation each church reflection can been seen throughout history.
You see a “lukewarm” is someone that believes in Jesus, but lives within the world. This lifestyle is allowed to exist because of this concept of “once saved always saved.”
If you think you are saved then you are free to live however you wish, which gives those that follow this a false sense of security.
The best way to explain this is say you are in school and get an “F.” Your parents say you cannot go on any field trips until your grades improve. So here comes this great field trip to heaven, and you want to go so you defy your parents (God) and forge the permission slip to go on the trip, (by the way your signature for God is terrible so you get caught).
Do you get to make this field trip? No you don’t.
This is what “once saved always saved” is, a horrible child’s attempt to forge the name of God on the permission slip into heaven.
Yes you must have “faith.” Yes you must believe in God and that His Son is Jesus Christ. However, if you do not follow the teachings of the Bible, which is the “works” part, you are defying God and choosing yourself over Him. Since we are to love and honor God with all our heart, mind and soul, is this not a sin against God? The answer is yes.
So since the Bible states that faith without works is dead, then “once saved always saves” is death since it does not outright state you must do “works.”
NOTE: if you study the word “works” it does not mean give to charity, or volunteer, it truly means to follow the instructions in the Bible.

A misunderstanding what is a “church”


What is to follow are some key points that need to be made clear. Why? Because what is a “church” has become lost over the centuries.
The first and most important point: we are called together as already saved members of the Body of Christ.
Matthew 18: 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Hebrews 10: 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21 And having an high priest over the house of God; 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
These verses show clearly that we are to be with Christ when we gather together. Also note that these gatherings are not called “churches” here. Just gathering, which leads to my second key point.
1 Corinthians 14: 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Churches as is seen above is defined as follows in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance: 1577 ekklesia ek-klay-see’-ah from a compound of 1537 and a derivative of 2564; a calling out, i.e. (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):–assembly, church.
A Christian community and an assembly.
Again we clearly see that these meeting and assemblies are first following that which is taught in Matthew 18 and Hebrews 10. A gathering together as already children of God through the salvation of Jesus Christ.
We are also told by Christ to go into the world and teach the gospel. He never says bring the world into the gatherings. Yet that is what is being done today.
Sinners are being allowed in the building that are called “churches,” for that is all they are buildings. Especially if you are not already one with God through Christ. Churches were just buildings made to make it easier to gather together, which in time allowed a man-made system to be created that as the centuries have passed turned them into businesses and enterprises and in today’s world that is exactly what most are. Gathering in funds to allow the head person in the pulpit to live in luxury while many in the “congregation” struggle to makes ends meet.
Acts 2: 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

A true “church” is called to spread the wealth to all within it. Not to keep it for the few as is done in a business. For that is what today’s “churches” especially most larger ones are all about.
Here is what those in Christ should seek out when looking for a home to gather in the name of Christ:

Is God the center?
How does the pastor live and dress?
Are people within the “church” struggling while others prosper?
Do you feel growth in your spiritual journey toward God?

If any of these answers leaving you doubting then it is best to move on and look for something else.