The unexpected debate: Part 3


The last two days I have been going into a breakdown of events within the Tribulation period because of a debate I encountered last week about at what point the Rapture transpires in relation to the Tribulation. I covered the pre and the mid now I am up to the pre-wrath and in my eyes the post-tribulation Raptures. Why I am grouping them together is because an important aspect took place at the midpoint. First the 144,000 Israelites were sealed and the two witnesses began their ministry. What I will cover today will be the events that happen before the bowls of wrath which are saved as the worst part of the Tribulation and are not only terrible but if allowed for a long period would result in death to all that remain upon the surface of this planet. Now I must add here that the wording when translated from the Greek includes “ALL” that are alive, no exceptions or exclusions, except for the 144,002. That removes there being a Post-Tribulation Rapture all together. The midpoint is also shown to be the opening of the sixth seal which is accompanied by a great earthquake and ALL that remain seek to hide themselves for the sight of God. This implies that none, but the 144,002 mentioned above seek God’s grace.
The last seal is opened upon the scroll given to Jesus and as He opens it the seven trumpet judgments begin. So a quick review of what happens in the first six trumpets. Because within the seventh trumpet is not where the seven bowls of wrath occur it is here that the pre-wrath tribulation is said to take place. What I want everyone to note though will be what happens in the sixth trumpet.
First trumpet – bloody hail and fire: one-third of vegetation destroyed.
Second trumpet – fiery mountain from heaven – one-third of oceans polluted.
Third trumpet – falling star – one third of fresh water polluted.
Fourth trumpet – darkness – one third of suns, moon, and star light diminished.
Fifth trumpet – demonic invasion against all humanity – painful torment and begging for death, but none is given.
Sixth trumpet – army of 200 million – one-third of humanity killed (2.376 billion people [2,376,000,000])
Now once again I emphases that ONLY 144,002 human beings ARE protected and no others. God would not subject those that are faithful to Him to suffer in such a manner. Now those that have denied Him as the parallel which is seen in Egypt when Moses came to free Israel from the enslavement in Exodus. Those that are left are the “Egyptians,” and there is no special instructions or hint that instructions will be given to comfort or protect those that are here during these judgments. In fact the total opposite is shown to occur.
So this belief in a pre-wrath or post-tribulation Rapture have no solid Biblical ground to stand upon and in my opinion have no valid foundation. So I cannot at this time see God being so cruel to those that have accepted His Son as their Savior. So the only Rapture which is prophesied within the Bible has only one solid point to exist at. Before the Tribulation begins and makes it so since people have heard the voice of Jesus as well as the voice of Michael and heard the Trumpet to have to do more through works than through faith. For having heard Jesus makes the need for faith to be less but the need for works to be greater. So once again I am led to a pre-Tribulation Rapture.

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