The last two days I have been going into a breakdown of events within the Tribulation period because of a debate I encountered last week about at what point the Rapture transpires in relation to the Tribulation. I covered the pre and the mid now I am up to the pre-wrath and in my eyes the post-tribulation Raptures. Why I am grouping them together is because an important aspect took place at the midpoint. First the 144,000 Israelites were sealed and the two witnesses began their ministry. What I will cover today will be the events that happen before the bowls of wrath which are saved as the worst part of the Tribulation and are not only terrible but if allowed for a long period would result in death to all that remain upon the surface of this planet. Now I must add here that the wording when translated from the Greek includes “ALL” that are alive, no exceptions or exclusions, except for the 144,002. That removes there being a Post-Tribulation Rapture all together. The midpoint is also shown to be the opening of the sixth seal which is accompanied by a great earthquake and ALL that remain seek to hide themselves for the sight of God. This implies that none, but the 144,002 mentioned above seek God’s grace.
The last seal is opened upon the scroll given to Jesus and as He opens it the seven trumpet judgments begin. So a quick review of what happens in the first six trumpets. Because within the seventh trumpet is not where the seven bowls of wrath occur it is here that the pre-wrath tribulation is said to take place. What I want everyone to note though will be what happens in the sixth trumpet.
First trumpet – bloody hail and fire: one-third of vegetation destroyed.
Second trumpet – fiery mountain from heaven – one-third of oceans polluted.
Third trumpet – falling star – one third of fresh water polluted.
Fourth trumpet – darkness – one third of suns, moon, and star light diminished.
Fifth trumpet – demonic invasion against all humanity – painful torment and begging for death, but none is given.
Sixth trumpet – army of 200 million – one-third of humanity killed (2.376 billion people [2,376,000,000])
Now once again I emphases that ONLY 144,002 human beings ARE protected and no others. God would not subject those that are faithful to Him to suffer in such a manner. Now those that have denied Him as the parallel which is seen in Egypt when Moses came to free Israel from the enslavement in Exodus. Those that are left are the “Egyptians,” and there is no special instructions or hint that instructions will be given to comfort or protect those that are here during these judgments. In fact the total opposite is shown to occur.
So this belief in a pre-wrath or post-tribulation Rapture have no solid Biblical ground to stand upon and in my opinion have no valid foundation to ANY who profess to being “Christian.” So I cannot at this time see God being so cruel to those that have accepted His Son as their Savior. So the only Rapture which is prophesied within the Bible has only one solid point to exist at. Before the Tribulation begins and makes it so since people have heard the voice of Jesus as well as the voice of Michael and heard the Trumpet to have to do more through works than through faith. For having heard Jesus makes the need for faith to be less but the need for works to be greater. So once again I am led to a pre-Tribulation Rapture as well as a Midtribulation Rapture thus making the term “partial rapture” a reality.
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Blog of Podcast #30 (Olivet Discourse 6/6)
Intro
Welcome to another podcast. I am Dreamwalker1960
Today we come to the conclusion of our study of the Olivet Discourse
Discussion
The judgement of the nations
Matthew 25:31-40 – “But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit upon his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered in his presence, and he will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will place the sheep at his right hand and the goats at his left. 34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. 36 I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’ 37 “Then these righteous ones will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? 39 When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 “And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!’
Now once again I wish to remind those that have been following this series about the word “nations.”
Nations is ethnos in the Greek and in actuality refers to races not an actual country.
So basically it is stating that all the people of the earth are gathered before Jesus as He sets upon His Throne. The fact that he is separating them points to the Great White Throne Judgment at which time we will have the books of our life opened and reviewed as well to see if our name is listed in the Book of Life.
Special Note: Being found here at the Judgement of the Great White Throne is something that those that profess to being “Christian” should find to be shameful and something to weep about. For this means they did not participate in any rapture events and missed out on the thousand-year reign of Jesus Christ.
By how the verses play out about separating the sheep from the goats and that those on the right, the sheep, “inherit the Kingdom.” Shows that there is a judgment here.
Matthew 25:41-46 – “Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. 42 For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’ 44 “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’ 45 “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ 46 “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”
Those that deny God and His Son’s teachings will have to join their true master Satan in the pit of fire that has been reserved for them for all eternity.
However if you are found to be righteous and true to God and the teachings of the Bible you will go into the next phase of existence and partake of the tree of life to live for all eternity in the service of God.
Final announcement of his coming death
At the end of the Olivet discourse Jesus finishes His teaching unto the apostles with this final warning of his coming death.
Matthew 26:1-2 – When Jesus had finished saying all these things, he said to his disciples, 2 “As you know, Passover begins in two days, and the Son of Man will be handed over to be crucified.”
The Bible makes no mention of the reaction to these words by the apostles. Instead it goes right to where the elders of the religious order in Jerusalem are plotting with Caiaphas to do just what Jesus had just stated would occur.
The fact that there is no mention of a response from the apostles shows their blindness to most of what they had just heard.
To summarize
What we learn from the Olivet discourse is a snapshot into the future. We learn that Jesus will not have His second return as soon as many expect. In fact He states in the parables that He will appear to be delayed. We learn that His return will be like a thief in the night, and shows that there are different rapture events. One will occur without any warning while a separate one will occur with the sky itself is darkening. We learn that if things do not go quickly the human race will become extinct.
We are warned to stay alert and stay true to the Bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ. We are shown that there will be those that are like the people that were before the great flood and their sins will be seen as the same. They will be living their lives as if nothing is going to happen and yet in the blink of an eye all will change in an instance and will be signaled by the first rapture. This will then cause those that realize the truth to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah and in turn these will be persecuted.
He tells those of the Jewish faith to watch for the desecration of the Holy of Holies which speaks of a third temple and when it occurs to flee quickly.
Out of all of it though is the warning to stay prepared. To stay alert. To watch for the signs of His return. These signs are now present as never before. They are global. They are affecting everyone and everywhere. There can be no doubt that we are in the end times of the world as we know it now.
So get right with God. Learn the Bible and follow the teachings within it. For we are told to obey and follow the Bible and to do what is right and righteous. For if we don’t we will be left behind and must face the horror that that entails.
In the first three parts of this series we discussed the warning signs that we are to look for. That being the rise of false prophets and teachers which has been happening since the very beginnings of the Christian church. That there would be wars and rumors of wars, which since the beginning of the 20th century there has been no peace on earth at any time up to the present. We can also say that since this same time frame there has been an increase in famines throughout the world. As to earthquakes we also discussed that there has been a dramatic up shift in these just in the last few years. Becoming more and prevalent and numerous.
We have also seen an increase in the persecution of those that profess to be Christian throughout the world and there has been an increase of this in the United States since the onset of the pandemic. We have also seen an increase in those become more apostate as well as betrayals of not only their fellow humans, but of family members just because of their believes.
We have also noted that within the last century there has been an increase in the number of false prophets and teachers and those willing to listen to them all due to the removal of God from the general society at large. As shown, this was due to people not knowing or truly understanding the Bible since they have never read it. As a result they believe these false teachings as fact when that is the furthest thing from the truth. This has resulted in sinners being openly and increasingly unafraid to hide in the darkness and so has become more prevalent throughout all of the world.
Yet, at the same time. Those willing to hear and listen, seek out the Bible and the knowledge within it throughout the world.
In the next part of the series we discussed the short mention of the tribulation and then we looked in the return of Christ as the end of these desperate times that are still ahead of the world.
However, in this part of the series and continued into the next part of the series we showed through the teaching of Jesus Christ Himself that there would be what has been described as the partial rapture. We showed through His words that the Jewish people are the elect and it is for them to be a terrible time for they will have to be present throughout most of the tribulation. We also showed that those faithful to God in Christendom would be removed from the earth before the tribulation. However those that had become foolish would have to suffer through the first half of the tribulation to the point of martyrdom.
So it is here that we end this study of the Olivet Discourse. Again this is not me spouting out my own personal theories. But the Word of God from the mouth of Jesus Christ Himself. With insights not from me alone, but from thousands of scholar. Condensed and filtered through the John F. Walvoord Prophecy Commentaries.
God Bless.
Special Note: The John F. Walvoord commentaries are the only commentaries I would recommend for anyone to read.
This said, I would warn those using it that it has one major flaw. The fact that he was Baptist and was of the group that believes in faith alone, grace alone, once saved always saved mentality.
Why recommend it at all then? Because it gives multiple views and is not limited to him being Baptist even though some text within it you can see that influence.
When weeding this out. Those using it get an overall image of prophecy. Prophecy that is now and already has been fulfilled.
Therefore, take it with a grain of salt and seek to discern the Truth that can be seen when using these commentaries as a aid to understanding the Word of God.
Blog for Podcast #239 (Events that are Soon to Occur)
Intro
This is Dreamwalker1960. As a reminder you can read the transcripts of all my podcasts at dreamwalker1960.com. You can use most podcast platforms if you wish to listen. All you need to do is do a search for Dreamwalker1960.
Discussion
An understanding of events that are soon to occur is required. Most don’t know, care or are even concerned about it. Most of these that have this mentality believe they are exempt, special and will find themselves removed from these events. However, this is the furthest thing from the Truth.
Romans 2:11 NLT – For God does not show favoritism.
Why?
Because most are the lukewarm that now profess to calling themselves “Christian.” How I know this is because I look about me and see it clearly. Those that wish to reject this deny the Words spoken by the Glorified Jesus Christ.
Revelation 3:15-17 NKJV – “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—
They say: “I am rich, have become wealthy and have need of nothing.” This is most of those that now profess to being “Christian.” For they refuse to downsize as command by Christ as I have taught multiple times in the past, but especially in podcasts #237 and 238 intitled “Why and How to Downsize.” Therefore, I will not dwell upon it here, but just understand that most that now profess to being “Christian” WILL find themselves left behind and must endure the first three and a half years of the Tribulation.
What is said next in the letter to the Laodiceans is important. For this is what will be required by those that are left behind to redeem themselves.
Revelation 3:18-19 NKJV – I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
To help in this repentance all must understand that within the first three and a half years what will occur in heaven will be the breaking of the seals. There are seven seals. However, only six will be broken in the first half of the tribulation.
Those that are within the United States though will not have to worry about the second half of the seven years. Not because they are so-called Christian, but as has been established in other teachings. The United States has become the earthly city of Babylon, and this nations fate is shown not only in chapter eighteen of the book of Revelation. But also in the breaking of the sixth seal. Therefore let us look to this seal now:
Revelation 6:12-17 NKJV – I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
The great earthquake which will be global will be the eruption of the Yellowstone super volcano. It will completely devastate the United States as well as parts of Canada and Mexico and most within it will die quickly. However, not all as shown here.
Revelation 18:8 NKJV – Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
“death and mourning and famine.”
So, what will transpire in these ruins of this nation is of no concern to the rest of the world. For this makes it so prophecy can be fulfilled and centered about the nation of Israel, which explains why there is no mention of countries on the other side of the ocean within the Bible for they have in one day been removed due to their willful sins against their Creator and His Son Jesus Christ by not downsizing and using most their earthly wealth to help those in need and the spreading of the Word of God.
This explains why the sun becomes black as a sackcloth of hair, and the moon like blood. For the ash cloud caused by the eruption of Yellowstone will cover the entire earth.
This happens just at the end of the of the first three and half years of the tribulation. This is why the antichrist will enter the third temple and desecrate it.
It is at this time that the last Christian rapture occurs and is uncountable. For most that called themselves “Christian” before the first rapture, which is when Christ will come as a thief in the night, will have been left behind and so sought to repent to God. This first three and a half years will also cause most to see the Truth and come to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Which is why the last Christian rapture is uncountable.
Revelation 7:9-17 NKJV – After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying: “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”
Note this is after the sixth seal is broken and before the seventh is broken. What occurs from the seventh seal onward is for those that rejected God and took the mark as well as worship the antichrist. It is also for those of the tribes of Israel. This is part of their punishment for rejecting Jesus Christ as their Messiah when He walked amongst them two thousand years ago.
Many false teachers say that Christians will be present even after the temple is defiled by the antichrist. That they will be present when the plagues and earthly destruction that is caused by the seven trumpets takes place. As well as the seven bowls. However, there is nothing that supports this. There is however, much that supports that the twelve tribes of Israel will be present.
Now understand this. In the fourteenth chapter of Revelation angels will fly through the heavens giving a message.
Revelation 14:6-13 NKJV – Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.” Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”
This message is not to help people come to the Lord, for the Holy Spirit has been removed from the face of the earth. This message is for the tribes of Israel. It is to help them till their rapture.
For clarification about the Holy Ghost we listen to this verse.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 NKJV – For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.
These messengers flying through the air giving this message for ALL must hear the Truth. Many, even those that profess to being “Christian” at this very moment we now live in have never heard the True Gospel. That is why they are left behind. They however, will seek the knowledge of the Truth in the first three and a half years and will come to know the Truth.
Those that are left after the Holy Spirit is removed must hear the Truth as well, however they are beyond salvation, for salvation can only be achieved with the Holy Ghost. Which is also why the two prophets will walks amongst them teaching the Truth, that the Truth of the Word of God can been heard by all even those that took the mark. This makes it so none can say they never heard the Truth of the Word of God.
The truth of this is seen in these verses from the flying angels:
“And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
“Babylon is fallen, is fallen.” As was discussed earlier this occurs when the sixth seal is broken at the middle of the tribulation and cause the sun and the moon to darken.
It is through events like this that will enable all of humanity to do this:
Philippians 2:9-11 NKJV – Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
God Bless