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The unexpected debate: Part 3

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The last two days I have been going into a breakdown of events within the Tribulation period because of a debate I encountered last week about at what point the Rapture transpires in relation to the Tribulation. I covered the pre and the mid now I am up to the pre-wrath and in my eyes the post-tribulation Raptures. Why I am grouping them together is because an important aspect took place at the midpoint. First the 144,000 Israelites were sealed and the two witnesses began their ministry. What I will cover today will be the events that happen before the bowls of wrath which are saved as the worst part of the Tribulation and are not only terrible but if allowed for a long period would result in death to all that remain upon the surface of this planet. Now I must add here that the wording when translated from the Greek includes “ALL” that are alive, no exceptions or exclusions, except for the 144,002. That removes there being a Post-Tribulation Rapture all together. The midpoint is also shown to be the opening of the sixth seal which is accompanied by a great earthquake and ALL that remain seek to hide themselves for the sight of God. This implies that none, but the 144,002 mentioned above seek God’s grace.
The last seal is opened upon the scroll given to Jesus and as He opens it the seven trumpet judgments begin. So a quick review of what happens in the first six trumpets. Because within the seventh trumpet is not where the seven bowls of wrath occur it is here that the pre-wrath tribulation is said to take place. What I want everyone to note though will be what happens in the sixth trumpet.
First trumpet – bloody hail and fire: one-third of vegetation destroyed.
Second trumpet – fiery mountain from heaven – one-third of oceans polluted.
Third trumpet – falling star – one third of fresh water polluted.
Fourth trumpet – darkness – one third of suns, moon, and star light diminished.
Fifth trumpet – demonic invasion against all humanity – painful torment and begging for death, but none is given.
Sixth trumpet – army of 200 million – one-third of humanity killed (2.376 billion people [2,376,000,000])
Now once again I emphases that ONLY 144,002 human beings ARE protected and no others. God would not subject those that are faithful to Him to suffer in such a manner. Now those that have denied Him as the parallel which is seen in Egypt when Moses came to free Israel from the enslavement in Exodus. Those that are left are the “Egyptians,” and there is no special instructions or hint that instructions will be given to comfort or protect those that are here during these judgments. In fact the total opposite is shown to occur.
So this belief in a pre-wrath or post-tribulation Rapture have no solid Biblical ground to stand upon and in my opinion have no valid foundation to ANY who profess to being “Christian.” So I cannot at this time see God being so cruel to those that have accepted His Son as their Savior. So the only Rapture which is prophesied within the Bible has only one solid point to exist at. Before the Tribulation begins and makes it so since people have heard the voice of Jesus as well as the voice of Michael and heard the Trumpet to have to do more through works than through faith. For having heard Jesus makes the need for faith to be less but the need for works to be greater. So once again I am led to a pre-Tribulation Rapture as well as a Midtribulation Rapture thus making the term “partial rapture” a reality.

Blog for Podcast #239 (Events that are Soon to Occur)

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Intro

This is Dreamwalker1960. As a reminder you can read the transcripts of all my podcasts at dreamwalker1960.com. You can use most podcast platforms if you wish to listen. All you need to do is do a search for Dreamwalker1960.

Discussion

An understanding of events that are soon to occur is required. Most don’t know, care or are even concerned about it. Most of these that have this mentality believe they are exempt, special and will find themselves removed from these events. However, this is the furthest thing from the Truth.

Romans 2:11 NLT – For God does not show favoritism.

Why?

Because most are the lukewarm that now profess to calling themselves “Christian.” How I know this is because I look about me and see it clearly. Those that wish to reject this deny the Words spoken by the Glorified Jesus Christ.

Revelation 3:15-17 NKJV – “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’—and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked—

They say: “I am rich, have become wealthy and have need of nothing.” This is most of those that now profess to being “Christian.” For they refuse to downsize as command by Christ as I have taught multiple times in the past, but especially in podcasts #237 and 238 intitled “Why and How to Downsize.” Therefore, I will not dwell upon it here, but just understand that most that now profess to being “Christian” WILL find themselves left behind and must endure the first three and a half years of the Tribulation.

What is said next in the letter to the Laodiceans is important. For this is what will be required by those that are left behind to redeem themselves.

Revelation 3:18-19 NKJV – I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.

To help in this repentance all must understand that within the first three and a half years what will occur in heaven will be the breaking of the seals. There are seven seals. However, only six will be broken in the first half of the tribulation.

Those that are within the United States though will not have to worry about the second half of the seven years. Not because they are so-called Christian, but as has been established in other teachings. The United States has become the earthly city of Babylon, and this nations fate is shown not only in chapter eighteen of the book of Revelation. But also in the breaking of the sixth seal. Therefore let us look to this seal now:

Revelation 6:12-17 NKJV – I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

The great earthquake which will be global will be the eruption of the Yellowstone super volcano. It will completely devastate the United States as well as parts of Canada and Mexico and most within it will die quickly. However, not all as shown here.

Revelation 18:8 NKJV – Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.

“death and mourning and famine.”

So, what will transpire in these ruins of this nation is of no concern to the rest of the world. For this makes it so prophecy can be fulfilled and centered about the nation of Israel, which explains why there is no mention of countries on the other side of the ocean within the Bible for they have in one day been removed due to their willful sins against their Creator and His Son Jesus Christ by not downsizing and using most their earthly wealth to help those in need and the spreading of the Word of God.

This explains why the sun becomes black as a sackcloth of hair, and the moon like blood. For the ash cloud caused by the eruption of Yellowstone will cover the entire earth.

This happens just at the end of the of the first three and half years of the tribulation. This is why the antichrist will enter the third temple and desecrate it.

It is at this time that the last Christian rapture occurs and is uncountable. For most that called themselves “Christian” before the first rapture, which is when Christ will come as a thief in the night, will have been left behind and so sought to repent to God. This first three and a half years will also cause most to see the Truth and come to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Which is why the last Christian rapture is uncountable.

Revelation 7:9-17 NKJV – After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, saying: “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

Note this is after the sixth seal is broken and before the seventh is broken. What occurs from the seventh seal onward is for those that rejected God and took the mark as well as worship the antichrist. It is also for those of the tribes of Israel. This is part of their punishment for rejecting Jesus Christ as their Messiah when He walked amongst them two thousand years ago.

Many false teachers say that Christians will be present even after the temple is defiled by the antichrist. That they will be present when the plagues and earthly destruction that is caused by the seven trumpets takes place. As well as the seven bowls. However, there is nothing that supports this. There is however, much that supports that the twelve tribes of Israel will be present.

Now understand this. In the fourteenth chapter of Revelation angels will fly through the heavens giving a message.

Revelation 14:6-13 NKJV – Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.” And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.” Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”

This message is not to help people come to the Lord, for the Holy Spirit has been removed from the face of the earth. This message is for the tribes of Israel. It is to help them till their rapture.

For clarification about the Holy Ghost we listen to this verse.

2 Thessalonians 2:7 NKJV – For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

These messengers flying through the air giving this message for ALL must hear the Truth. Many, even those that profess to being “Christian” at this very moment we now live in have never heard the True Gospel. That is why they are left behind. They however, will seek the knowledge of the Truth in the first three and a half years and will come to know the Truth.

Those that are left after the Holy Spirit is removed must hear the Truth as well, however they are beyond salvation, for salvation can only be achieved with the Holy Ghost. Which is also why the two prophets will walks amongst them teaching the Truth, that the Truth of the Word of God can been heard by all even those that took the mark. This makes it so none can say they never heard the Truth of the Word of God.

The truth of this is seen in these verses from the flying angels:

“And another angel followed, saying, “Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she has made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

“Babylon is fallen, is fallen.” As was discussed earlier this occurs when the sixth seal is broken at the middle of the tribulation and cause the sun and the moon to darken.

It is through events like this that will enable all of humanity to do this:

Philippians 2:9-11 NKJV – Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

God Bless

Blog for Podcast #147 (A Difficult burden I was reluctant to Teach)

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Intro

This is Dreamwalker1960. As a reminder you can read the transcripts of all my podcasts at dreamwalker1960.com. You can use most podcast platforms if you wish to listen. All you need do is do a search for Dreamwalker1960.

Discussion

I have been putting this off. I have hinted at it in the past, but I felt it was not time. Last night I received a dream once again. Per Acts 2:17 I am a dreamer of dreams, thus the name of these podcasts. God wishes me to now address this issue that I have been so reluctant to pursue.

To begin this, I will do a breakdown of two verses found in Matthew chapter seven:

Matthew 7:13-14 KJV – Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Enter – G1525 – eiserchomai – I go in, come in.

strait – G4728 – stenos – narrow

wide – G4116 – platus – broad, street

destruction – G684 – apóleia – ruin, loss, perishing; eternal ruin; damnable, die, perdition, pernicious.

leadeth – G520 – apagó – I lead, carry, take away; met, bring.

few – G3641 – oligos – little, small, short, brief(ly).

find – G2147 – heuriskó – I find, learn, discover, especially after searching, get, obtain, perceive, see.

When looking at this break down of these key words within these two verses, we return to what I have been teaching for years. That each person that seeks salvation from Jesus Christ has an active role in this relationship. Many seek, but few search. This is reflected from these words from the second book of Peter:

2 Peter 2:20-22 NKJV – For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A DOG RETURNS TO HIS OWN VOMIT,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”

That is why so many wear the façade Christianity. In their own eyes they profess true and complete faith to God through Jesus Christ. But in reality, that is not whom they are truly worshipping. Which is why this is said to those in Galatia which are teaching a people pleasing message:

 Galatians 1:6-10 NKJV – I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.

But to return to the core of this message. I go to the next link in the chain.

Luke 21:29-36 NKJV – Then He spoke to them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near. So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. “But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

Here is a strong link in this chain. First, we have the parable of the fig tree which is a warning to look for the soon return of Jesus Christ. Then we have the warning to stay alert and to keep the faith and follow the commands. Then if we are faithful to Jesus Christ and we pray we might be counted worthy to escape what is to follow. We are taken out of it.

Yet there are those that to their own shame deny these words spoken by Him whom they profess to follow clearly stating that we can avoid the trials within the tribulation. They, however, say this is not what is said in these Words. They just denied their Savior and opened themselves up to being denied by Him to His Father (Matthew 10:33). Yet since they denied the first of course they deny the second as well.

Too many have written off the pretribulation rapture. Too many deny the Word spoken by Him who is the Word. But then that is how we started today’s message isn’t? The many taking the wide road and only a few willing to take the narrow path.

It is because they know in their hearts, they will not be welcomed in the first rapture that they insist it does not exist at all. They embrace the torment and the pain that is to come. The starvation and the torture over seeking after God through pure faith and works as we are all called to do by our Savior Jesus Christ. They welcome the beheading and to be called a martyr. All this instead of simply following the commands found within the Bible and selling off all their worldly goods.

We also have another angle to look at this issue. What does the Bible say about those that believe over seeing?

John 20:24-29 NKJV – Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.” So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.” And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

“Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

Don’t they understand that once the Tribulation begins, they are seeing God at work. They are seeing Christ, but those that sought after Christ before His return and made themselves ready are blessed in His sight and so are taken away from what is to befall all those that in essence or in actuality denied Him.

Don’t they understand that Christ came to save all from damnation? Yet they walk in damnation wearing the disguise of “Christianity” awaiting the day to remove that mask and either truly decide to follow Christ or wear the mark. Less blessed than they were before the tribulation came into being.

All because they wished to live in comforts here and now.

1 Timothy 6:6-8 NKJV – Now godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content.

Seeking worldly rewards here and now.

1 John 2:15-16 NLT – Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world.

Not helping those in need as all are told to do.

1 John 3:17 NKJV – But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?

As well as spreading the Word of God to help others find salvation before the tragedies that are soon to befall all.

Matthew 28:18-20 NKJV – And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in my name, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

From personal experience I know that this is how most that profess to being “Christian” actually live and behave. They refuse to do any of these things that is required to be a disciple of Jesus Christ our Savior. Yet they live in a false pride that they are this great and wonderful people that do so many wondrous and great deeds.

All of this mentality has gotten us to this point. This false image of “Christianity.” This apostate church. To the point that brings us to the end of the gentile era. This era of slaughter and conquest in the false “God” but it wasn’t that God they did it for but the god that is in control of this realm at this time.

2 Corinthians 4:4 NLT – Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

Yet the lie was so complete that they believed with all their hearts that it was their Creator they followed when in reality it was not.

This is witnessed with those that stand before the public and profess their undying faith as a “Christian.” Yet in the previous or next words seek the death and destruction of others. Especially those that are small and defensively. Known like all are known by God before they even enter the womb. Before the sperm enters the egg.

Here is the sad but shocking truth.  Those that wish to embrace horror. Those that wish to embrace pain. Those that wish to embrace starvation. Don’t see God nor His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. They don’t have faith for they have not believed without seeing. All they have thought was believe in following God most likely was worship of themselves. A worship that has been occurring for nearly two thousand years. Humanity worshipping man-made religions. Resulting in wars and destruction of entire civilizations.

The only reason God is known. The only reason Jesus is known. Is because throughout the centuries some truly took the narrow and difficult path. Like Martin Luther who challenged the Catholic Church head on. Most are forgotten by humans. Erased from history for their lives went counter to those that wrote history. Then a few others are known like William Tyndale who used the original Hebrew and Greek as a reference instead of supporting Latin translations. In fact, it was due to this fact that he translated them into English is what caused his arrest and then death.

It is these few that truly took the narrow and difficult path. It is these few that carried forward the true faith and believe in God through His Son Jesus Christ. It is these few that make it possible for humanity to make it to the next stage in God’s eternal plan. A plan that is beyond our understanding.

Now though too many say there will not be a pretribulation rapture. Totally counter to what Jesus Christ Himself said would occur. Counter to Christ returning as a thief in the night.

Why I say this is two times during the tribulation the sun will darken. One time when the City of Babylon is destroyed in one day. The other when Wormwood hits the earth. How can Christ come as a thief in the night when all will see these two events if they are still alive upon this planet.

The answer is simple. He can’t. He must come before and when He does is when the tribulation will begin.

Enough denial. Enough arguing. Enough accepting lies. Fix your relationship with God through Jesus Christ NOW!

God Bless