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Discussion

What is required to deny Christ?

Let us look at the verses of Timothy:

1 Timothy 6:3-5 – If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

“Even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

In a recent discussion I showed the Words of the Glorified Jesus Christ from Revelation. However, this is not the time to go to that point but to show another aspect of those that were followers of Jesus then turned their backs upon Him.

Titus 1:10-16 – For there are many rebellious people who engage in useless talk and deceive others. This is especially true of those who insist on circumcision for salvation. 11 They must be silenced, because they are turning whole families away from the truth by their false teaching. And they do it only for money. 12 Even one of their own men, a prophet from Crete, has said about them, “The people of Crete are all liars, cruel animals, and lazy gluttons.” 13 This is true. So reprimand them sternly to make them strong in the faith. 14 They must stop listening to Jewish myths and the commands of people who have turned away from the truth. 15 Everything is pure to those whose hearts are pure. But nothing is pure to those who are corrupt and unbelieving, because their minds and consciences are corrupted. 16 Such people claim they know God, but they deny him by the way they live. They are detestable and disobedient, worthless for doing anything good.

Now it is time to go to the words of the Glorified Jesus Christ. In particular the letter to the church of Sardis.

Revelation 3:1-6 – “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, ‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. 2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. 3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you. 4 You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 6 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ‘

Now before I get into why these words for Jesus Christ caused issue. We have to come to an understanding,

These seven churches have seven angels assigned to watch over them. Watching over them is Jesus Christ. We also know that these churches were established within sixty years after the resurrection of our Lord and Savior.

Be it Paul or John who established it is of no concern. However, what is of concern is due to the point that these churches were made soon after Christ’s ascension leads to an important state for these churches. The people that made up these churches has been taught the Good News by someone that knew the Truth. These people were baptized after accepting Christ as their Savior and they were filled with the Holy Spirit.

How can this be said?

Because Paul and John would have made sure it was done.

So, these seven churches were originally full followers of the Truth of Jesus Christ.

Yet now they have fallen away. They have drifted from the Truth. Even though Galatia was not one of these seven churches look at the opening segment of that letter to see my point:

Galatians 1:6-7 – I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to himself through the loving mercy of Christ. You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News 7 but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ.

These people were also baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit as attested to by these words:

Galatians 1:6 – I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,

“From Him who called you in the grace of Christ.”

So, these people were “Christian” just as those of the seven churches were.

So let us re-read the letter to Sardis and keep in mind that these people had been originally saved:

Revelation 3:1-6 – “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, ‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. 2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. 3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you. 4 You have a few names even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. 6 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ‘

I was led through pray and study, by the Holy Spirit to identify those of the modern-day church of Sardis as those that follow the teaching of “Once saved always saved.” This is the main people to which I was led to reference, but I have seen that there are multiple groups out there that follow false teachings. Yet within them are those that are truly followers of Jesus Christ.

And right there some new folks just got upset and angry.

When you work from the flesh it is shown in visible signs that can be seen:

Galatians 5:19-21 – Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

…. Hatred, contention, …. outburst of wrath…… dissension ….. heresies

A better translation of the words is hostility, quarreling, outburst of anger, dissension and division. Which many rejecting what I just stated a few moments ago have just displayed.

We are instructed by the Bible to do this:

2 Timothy 4:2 – Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.

I know firsthand that the false teaching of “once saved always saved” is false. I will tell you the story from my own life.

I knew someone that was Baptist and with all their heart testified that they were Christian. They believed their salvation could never be lost. Yet at the very same time they practiced witchcraft.

Note Galatians 5:20… the second word in that verse is “sorcery” which is stated to be works of the flesh. Also note the last 7 words of verse twenty-one:

“Will not inherit the kingdom of God.”

So, which is it?

Oh, they were never saved in the first place someone just said. I refer them to the Bible:

Romans 10:9 – that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

So, again I say: which is it?

Jesus Christ Himself said this in the gospel of John:

John 15:1-6 – “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. 5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

“I am the vine you are the branches.” None can be a branch unless they are one with Christ. This comes through salvation. Yet this is also said:

“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.”

They are removed from the Vine who is Christ. Their salvation is revoked, and even worse than that they are thrown in the fire.

They are cast into damnation.

These are the words of Jesus Christ who also said this:

“He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life.”

Due to free-will we have a choice in our salvation. if we overcome and chose to follow Christ, He will not remove our names from the Book of Life.

The implication is crystal clear. If someone choses to stay in sin, their name is removed from the Book of Life. Their salvation is removed.

Therefore, per Christ Himself there is no such thing as “once saved always saved.” Any who insist that this is a lie just called Jesus Christ a liar. In simpler terms they just denied Jesus Christ. What does He say about those that deny Him?

Matthew 10:33 – But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.

If someone is denied to the Father by the Son, then they have lost their salvation.

Do you see the theme of this message.

To live in denial is to deny Jesus Christ.

It is time to face the truth. It is time to face facts. Jesus Christ is soon to return. The Tribulation is soon to start. I already know most will reject this message. For the Bible makes that very clear. I know that those that listen will be allowed into the marriage feast. But those that continue to reject the Truth found within the Bible will be pounding upon the door and Christ Himself will shout out to them.

Matthew 25:12 – But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’

This first rapture will be very small. For three and a half years those that have embraced the false teachings like “once saved always saved” will have to suffer the torments that occur in that time frame. But those that overcome will be clad in white garments:

Revelation 7:9-14 – After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” 13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” 14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

God Bless