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The Seven Churches (Part 4) – The letter to Pergamum


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Pergamum was a prominent religious centered city that was north of Smyrna. Within it were multiple religions and cults that worship various gods that were known throughout the known world at that time. Here a small group had come together in all honesty to worship Christ. This letter from Jesus is His message to them.

Revelation 2:12 – And to the angel of the church in Pergamum write: “The words of Him who has the sharp two-edged sword.”

CHRIST THE JUDGE: The sharp two-edged sword refers to the Word of God. As stated in Dr. Walvoord’s commentary on the book Revelation: “Its representation as a double-edged sword indicates on the one hand the way God’s Word, by its promise and message of salvation, cuts loose the chains of sin and condemnation that bind the helpless sinner. On the other hand, the same Word is the means of condemnation and refection of those who refuse the message of grace. The Word of God is both the instrument of salvation and the instrument of death.”

Revelation 2:13 – “I know where you dwell, where Satan’s throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.”

COMMENDATION: Jesus gives them praise for continuing to exist in as He Himself states “where Satan dwells.” He also mentions a man named Antipas who had been martyred. Nothing is known of him save that he died for Christ who called him His “faithful witness.” Those there tried to stay faithful to His name.
Now there are those that believe that the gods in all the ancient Polytheistic cultures were none other than the fallen angels which included their leader Satan. When you actual think upon it there is some credence to this being true. So Jesus making the statement that this is “where Satan’s throne is” could actually pertain to a temple of Zeus which was one of the gods worshiped here since most times Statues of him showed him seated upon a throne.

Revelation 2:14-15 – “But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teachings of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. So also you have some who hold the teachings of the Nicolaitans”

Here is the last time the “Nicolaitans” are mentioned and again no detail is given and so their acts fall into the darkness of history only to ever be seen again upon the day of the Great White Throne Judgment when their membership will stand exposed before God as He passes judgment upon them.
Also mentioned thou is the false prophet Balaam found in Numbers 22-25. In Numbers 31 we find that he had advised King Balak to corrupt Israel by tempting them to intermarry with pagan women and begin worshiping their wife’s gods in acts which included eating sacrificed food and precipitating various sexual immoralities. Some within the church had fallen prey to these practices. The same is true today for those churches that have embraced and welcomed homosexuality into their churches.
This same mentality is the mentality that embraced the church as a whole soon after Constantine allow them to worship God freely and openly. Shortly after attempts to bring into it the use of pagan rituals which entered the church and began to defile the structure of the church. This is also per Dr. Walvoord where the beginning elements of Catholicism began to take hold with the church adding rituals which were never given to the church by Christ.

Revelation 2:16 – “Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth.”

Again I turn directly to the words of Dr. Walvoord: “In this abrupt command, Christ issued a sharp word to the church at Pergamum – and their modern counterparts. Even though many in the church at Pergamum had been faithful and one of their number had dies as a martyr, it was still true that the church was being invaded by an evil so serious that Christ warned He would fight against it. There is no alternative to continued impurity and compromise with the truth but divine judgment. The apostasy that is seen in it early stage in the church at Pergamum has its culmination in the still-future apostate church in Revelation 17, which is ultimately brought into divine judgement by Christ, the Head of the church.”

Revelation 2:17 – “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, with a new name written on the stone that no one knows except the one who received it.”

Again there is the exhorting for those that can hear to hear, for not all will. For those that do hear and overcome the sins listed against the church of Pergamum they are promised not only a special mana that is hidden to the world, but they are to receive a white stone on which a name only known to the Trinity and those that are given this stone.

The Seven Churches (Part 3) – The letter to Smyrna


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The city of Smyrna was about thirty-five miles north of Ephesus. It too was a wealthy city, second only to the afore mentioned city south of it. Today though Smyrna still exists yet under a new name. It is the third largest city in Turkey and is called Izmir. It was a commercial center at that the end of the first century since it had a good harbor.

Revelation 2:8 – and to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: “The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.”

CHRIST THE ETERNAL ONE. When the Glorified Christ called Himself “the first and the last” He identified Himself with God, who in the first chapter of Revelation was referred to as “the Alpha and the Omega.” This statement showed that not only was He the Son of God, but was as well God even though He has taken human form as is denoted in the next part of the salutation. He was the one “who died and came to life.” This shows that even though He took human form He has always been and always will exist since he rose from the dead upon the third day.
By Him dying and rising also shows God’s love for all, by the fact that Christ came down and suffered for our sins and became our replacement for the death we all so deserve. However, He rose from the dead as we are promised to stand a live before His Father the Lord God, clean and unblemished by the sacrifice of His blood.

Revelation 2:9 – “I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the lander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan”

Those that followed Christ in the city of Smyrna were under persecution. To the point that they had been denied the ability to possible work within the city making them destitute. They most likely resorted to menial tasks to get by and survived, but still stayed loyal to their belief in God and His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
Amongst those that were against them were those that were once of Jacob, but had abandoned their belief in God to a belief in the world and all that includes and so they embraced their new master Satan.

Revelation 2:10-11 – “Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.”

This persecution they were experiencing was only the beginning of their trials. They would strife and hold onto their faith and become strong in their belief that God and His Son are both real.
It is recorded that approximately sixty years later the bishop of Smyrna named Polycarp was burned alive on a Saturday, for the historian and commentator Ryrie states that the wood gathered was in part was provided by the fallen away Jews that gathered this wood on the Sabbath.
Even though under persecution Jesus exhorts them to stand fast to their faith and belief in Him. For by doing so even though it may last their entire life upon this planet it is remember that this life here is like the blink of an eye to what the rest of our true life will be like in length. For Jesus promise them the “crown of life” another reference to eternal life. All life that will last billions of years.
The persecution the church as a whole was also in the process as it was for those at Smyrna. It continued until Constantine granted Christians the freedom of worshiping within the Rome Empire in the early part of the fourth century.

The Seven Churches (Part 2) – The letter to Ephesus


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The letters to the churches begins in chapter 2 of the book of Revelation. Now to understand the letters we must understand the cities themselves and the time period. The book of Revelation was written in the last decade of the first century A.D. Sixty years after Jesus walked upon the earth. John is an old man now and exiled to the isle of Patmos by the Roman Emperor Domitian. Most that has actually seen Christ are old like John or have gone on to be with Christ if they called Him their Savior.
Ephesus at the end of the first century was the most prominent city in Asia Minor. In fact all seven of these cities, either ruins or still standing in some form, are found within the boundaries of Turkey.
Of the seven churches Ephesus is the only one of the seven churches mentioned in the book of Acts, as well as having a letter sent to them that become a part of the Bible, the book of Ephesians. Evidence supports that pastor at large for Ephesus was Timothy of first and second Timothy, but as mentioned before most that actually had walked or met Christ were gone now.
The state of the church in the 90s A.D. were the next generation of people that chose to become Christian. Most were raised from birth on the tales and stories of the miracle worker know as Jesus Christ that rose from the dead, but they had never actually seen Him.

Revelation 2:1 – To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: “The words of Him who holds the seven stars in His right hand, who walks among the seven golden lampstands.”

CHRIST THE SOVEREIGN JUDGE: The Glorified Christ is shown here to be holding the seven stars or angels of the seven churches, as well as He walks amongst the seven golden lampstands which are the churches themselves. This to me means Christ Himself as toured the churches first hand and is fully prepared to comment upon their state and what He thinks needs to be done in each to correct any issues that are found. The holding of the stars means that not only that He has authority over the churches, but they are in fact sanctioned to exist under His blessing. So those within it have stated they wish to be a child of Christ and have bowed before Him and asked Him into their lives.

Revelation 2:2-3 – “I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear with those who are evil, but have tested those who call themselves apostles and are not, and found them to be false. I know you are enduring patiently and bearing up for my name’s sake, and you have not grown weary.

COMMENDATION: Christ as seen that those in Ephesus have been diligent in their faith and have even tested those that paraded themselves to be messengers of Christ, but were found to be false. So here Jesus finds things happening within this church that please Him and so it states has such.

Revelation 2:4-5 – “But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first. Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent, and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.”

INDICTMENT: The word “love” used here is “Agapen” is the deepest most meaningful type of love and because they have fallen from this first love they were seen by Christ Himself as of having a major problem because he used the word “repent” meaning to turn around, do a 180.
When Christ walked amongst us He added two commandments to the ten we already had. The first and most important of these was to Love God with all our heart, mind and soul. To love God with the human trinity to show love to the Holy Trinity. To love God though His the Son the Lord Jesus Christ so completely means we are to place God first and foremost in all that we do. Every single action that we do must be done thinking of: “How would Jesus do this?” “How would God want me to do this?” Every single action we do in our lives and every single day of our lives.
These were teaches that this church knew for the gospels had been in their possession at this time, and they had heard these very words spoken of from within them.
This re-emphasizes just how important it is to live like an image of Christ 365 days a year not just on Sunday or when it is convenient. For Christ Himself says to “repent” for they had strayed away from their love for Christ. Their hearts had cooled for God and thus opened the door for a falling away and due to this falling away Jesus threatened to remove their lampstand. The lampstand was removed in 431 when the last inhabitants of Ephesus were forcibly removed by the Turks.

Revelation 2:6 – “Yet this you have: you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.”

Who the “Nicolaitans” were no one knows. The mere fact that any true history of them has ceased to exist shows just how much Jesus Christ despised them, for all we have left of them is a meager mention of their name twice in this book and both times it is not in a flattering light.

Revelation 2:7 – “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will grant at eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.”

Here we see that not all will hear the words and understand them and that this message is given through the Holy Spirit. Those that do hear and overcome are promised to eat of the “tree of life,” in other word granted eternal life in the service of God.
Here we see how as a church as a whole at the end of the first century was starting to drift away from Christ. For they had not seen Him. They did not know Him as a person, but a tale told to them by their elders. This is true now as well in many. They see God and Jesus as a story, a fairy tale. Not realizing Jesus was real and there is evidence that still exists that say yes Jesus is real and what He did was real as will and what He offers to all is just as real.

The Seven Churches (Part 1)


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This last week I started restudying the book of Revelation. To do this I decided this time as I did with the Book of Daniel to use a commentary to gain a better insight into the word of God. Now I have tried more than one and found only one to be really of any true worth.
The Walvoord Commentary series is what I would recommend. In most areas with them I have had little conflict with what was represented. I did find that Dr. John F. Walvoord, or the editors, since he has gone on to be with Christ, that he is anti-Catholic, but he gives a good argument for this in one the churches to be discussed. I also found him to be pro-Baptist, which I actually feel is not a good thing. He had the belief of “once saved always saved.” This, I personally believe, has become an open door to apathy thus helping to create the state of the falling away from God we are now experiencing in Christianity today.
Now it is important to get a grasp upon the most important element within the Bible, especially the New Testament. It was written for those that have already become true followers of Jesus Christ. It is for those that have fallen to their knees and bowed before Him and asked Him into their hearts. It is a guide book into striving to become a true reflection of our Savior. So when John is writing these letters to the seven churches it is to those that committed within their hearts to truly be Christian. Now most in this world say they are Christian, because they have gone to church when they were young in most cases, but they never truly surrender their lives to following the Son of God. This is apathy, this is a sin. This is why people have such a hard time understanding the Bible, let alone striving to follow it teachings. They think they are Christian, but in reality they aren’t. This has occurred not only due to Catholicism, but also due to Baptist teaching, both of which are man-made doctrines and not given by God through His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus gave us the true baptism which occurs after you commit your heart and soul to Christ, something that is impossible for a baby to do. Christ gave us the taking of unleavened bread a simple of His body and of wine the symbol of His blood. These are the only ceremonies given to the Church. He also taught that those that have been saved can fall away from their salvation due to freewill. Christ Himself made this clear in John 15. It is reinforced in 2 Peter 2 as well as in two of the letters going to be discussed in this series. For these letters were given to the “messengers” of the seven churches and so as Christ says at the end to every church “He that hath an ear, let him hear…”
Here is an important element that the Walvoord Commentary brought to light to me that when thought upon actually makes sense. The state of the churches even though contemporary for they can exist as contemporaries in other churches that now exist. However, this is what I found enlightening is that the state of the churches are also linear. Meaning they follow one after the other throughout the church age. The first church being the church at the time the letters are written to the last church being the state of the church as a whole is at the time when it is near the end of times or the time for what is stated within Revelation to actually take place.

Blog for Podcast #6


Intro

Welcome again to another broadcast. I am Dreamwalker1960
Today we will be studying the letters to the seven churches found in Revelation chapters 2 and 3.
I will also be consulting the John Walvoord commentaries for this as well. Why? Because of all the commentaries that are out there that deal with trying to interpret the book of Revelation. I have found this one to be the most creditable. Again why? John Walvoord dealt specifically with the books of prophecy within the Bible and has several books upon this. They cover Daniel, Matthew, 1st and 2nd Thessalonians as well as the book of Revelation.
What drove me to seek after this knowledge of these books?
Well in the introduction podcast I mentioned a dream I had when I was 18. What is in this dream is something between me and God. However it sparked my journey to earnestly study the Bible, and has I read the Bible the books of Daniel and Revelation stood out the most to me.
Well a church had been built right next to my home I was living in in my late teens. So one Sunday I went to it, mainly because of the dream and my desire to learn more about the Bible. It was a Methodist Church. And the Minister began to talk. What did he talk about? The book of Revelation. First thing out of his mouth. “The book of Revelation is a fairy tale.”
I was shocked and never went near a Methodist church ever again. This one event caused two things to take place. An even stronger desire to learn the truths within Revelation and a very strong mistrust for the buildings called “churches.” For the “Church” is not a building but those people that follow Jesus Christ. This latter fact has been reinforced time and time again as I have tried to go to the buildings that call themselves “churches.”
But I have gotten off track.
Discussion
The seven churches and why discuss them? What a majority of scholars have determined is that even though these seven churches were churches that John did write to. They represent the seven types of mental states within the body of Christ within each of them at that time. From faithful, to willfully turning away from Christ. However as time has marched on since those letters were written approximately 60 years after Jesus went to the cross and rose again on the third day. That these letters reflect how the church, both religion wise and spiritually had reflected each of these letters throughout the centuries. Meaning that they are both concurrent and chronological.
Concurrent – happening or existing at the same time
Chronological – arranged in the order of time
I will be dealing mainly with the Chronological aspect of the seven churches.
That being said, when taking the churches in order. The first letter to Ephesus to the last letter to Laodicea expand from the beginning of the church age to the end of the church age.
The beginning of the church age began on the Third day when Jesus Christ left the tomb. While the ending of the age is when those within the Church are taken into heaven at the Rapture. What happens in between people have always though was a mystery. However, when taking these seven letter into account God is tell us how we will know when to expect His Son’s return.
In the book on Revelation by John Walvoord the seven churches are described this way:
1. Ephesus – the Orthodox, but lost Church
2. Smyrna – the Suffering Church
3. Pergamum – the Compromising Church
4. Thyatira – the Tolerant, Permissive Church
5. Sardis – the Dead Church
6. Philadelphia – The Faithful Church
7. Laodicea – the Lukewarm, Useless Church
The Chronology follows suit.
First letter
This first phase goes from the times of the letters which later become the New Testament to approximately one hundred years after the crucifixion. In this time were the descendants of those who has seen Jesus themselves. These people adhered to the teachings in the letters but could not fully comprehend what their parents had told of their firsthand encounters with Jesus.
Second letter
The second phase interlaced with the first phase, for in this time those that worshipped Jesus were seen as criminals. In fact in the histories written by Josephus, is an account of James the half-brother of Jesus who had been tried and then stoned with others for breaking the law. However the prosecution ended in 313 A.D. when the emperor Constantine converted to Christianity and made it legal for Christians to worship God freely in the Roman Empire.
Third letter
When Constantine made it legal to be Christian it became the popular fad to be Christian. And so the compromising began. So it can be said that this letter in the chronology began in 313 A.D. and the corruption and intermingling of different beliefs started to change and corrupt the true faith in Jesus Christ. I will quote from the book on Revelation by John Walvoord page 67:
“Though some benefit was gained by the successful defense of biblical truth by the Council of Nicea in A.D. 325, the history of the three centuries that followed is a record of increasing corruption of the church, departure from biblical doctrine and an attempt to combine Christian theology with pagan philosophy.”
So this would place this in the time line up into the 600s.
Fourth letter
It is here that pagan influences entered into the church and are still present today. Like all saints day, which led to Halloween, and the birth of Christ being celebrated in December. As well as the inclusion of statues and images being made of Jesus.
All of this is mainly due to the official introduction of the Catholic Church in 313 A.D. However there is evidence of a can show the church unofficially existed as early as 110 A.D. Now even though the Catholic Church become the “official” church throughout the Middle Ages. It was filled with corruption and led mostly by a greedy self-serving hierarchy.
It is partly this behavior, but it is also due to the fall of the Byzantine Empire that a shift took place. Which result in Greek transcripts of the Bible to make their way into Europe. And so this period ends in 1517 A.D.
Fifth letter
Now even though that Great Reformation was going on during this time period. There was a type of spiritual death occurring in this time frame. A spiritual death that resulted in the persecution of those that sought after the true teachings of the Bible. The great expansion of “civilization” took place in this time frame and many cultures were dominated or destroyed. The Spanish Inquisition occurred in this time frame and greed was the ruler of most hearts. Also the lusts of man’s carnal desires which caused the creation of the Church of England. From within this came those that sought after the truths within the Bible. The Quakers and the Puritans. And so this period can be said to end when these people fled Europe for a new land where they could worship God and Jesus in the way the Bible taught them. When they landed in what is now called Massachusetts in 1620 A.D. this period ended.
Sixth letter
Again we can said there has been some overlapping between events in these letters. For as I stated at the beginning of this podcast. The churches were not chronological, but concurrent. This is seen here. For as I mentioned the Great Reformation began in 1517 and is the beginning of the time period of the fifth letter. Well it is also the beginning of the sixth. In this time period not only did we get as mentioned before those that settled in what is now the United States. We also had the spreading for the true Gospel of Jesus Christ all the way down to the common people. This was done through the creation of the printing press and the work of those to translate the Bible to the common languages. For example the King James Version of the Bible which is made officially ccertified in 1611 A.D. This great expansion and growth in faith and believe did not end until the 1960s. However we can give an official end to this period. That being August 1969, and it was even given a name. Woodstock.
Seventh letter
And so we come to the last church that is foretold will precede the return of Jesus Christ and the entire reason the book of Revelation was written. We come to the description of the “lukewarm.”
Revelation 3:17-18 – You say, ‘I am rich. I have everything I want. I don’t need a thing!’ And you don’t realize that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked. So I advise you to buy gold from me—gold that has been purified by fire. Then you will be rich. Also buy white garments from me so you will not be shamed by your nakedness, and ointment for your eyes so you will be able to see.
This is also today’s church which has been seduced by the luxuries of this soft and pampering world we now live within. Even now the children revolt against their elders. Thinking they know better than those that have been in this world longer. They have been so spoiled that they wish to have everything just handed over to them. This is selfishness to the extreme. This is the total opposite of placing God first and treating all those about you as you would wish to be treated yourself. The golden rule is dead and it was killed by those that wished to kick God totally out of the world. Well now as violence is on the increase. Different social groups begin to self-segregate, refusing in interact with none but their “own.”
So we are now in the last age of the church. Most do not wish to accept or believe they are “lukewarm.” Yet this letter from the Glorified Jesus Christ says otherwise. When will Jesus return? All I can say is soon. Very soon, maybe even sooner than many may think.
I have written an entire series on these letters in my blog at dreamwalker1960.com I will repost it soon after this podcast drops. If you wish to read it please do so. Also I do highly recommend the John Walvoord Prophecy Commentaries.
God Bless.

Blog for Podcast #5


Into
Welcome to another broadcast and I am Dreamwalker1960
As we continue to look into the verses that identify who are the “lukewarm” we come to 2 Peter 2. In which we see where many are turn from the course of salvation and led toward the realm of the lukewarm.
Now I highly recommend that this entire chapter be read due to the imagery given for those that will tempt the people that are not only newly welcomed to the church but are at times long standing members within the body of Christ. We will however only key in on the important moment when many have been led astray without their even being aware. Mainly due to a failure on the part of those in a higher place within the earthly church. Many of whom do not know nor even realized that the world is filled with the lukewarm. Including themselves.
The breakdown
We must start with verse 1 of 2 Peter 2. Because here you get a clear image of who false teachers are in today’s world. In today’s lesson I will also go straight to the KJV.
Verse 1 – But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
False teachers – G5572 – pseudodidaskalos – a spurious teacher, i.e. propagator of erroneous doctrine [Strong’s]
a: spurious – not genuine, authentic, or true; not from the claimed, pretended, or proper source; counterfeit. [Dictionary.com]
b: propagator – someone who spreads ideas, beliefs, etc. to a lot of people [macmillandictionary.com]
c: erroneous – containing error; mistaken; incorrect; wrong [Dictionary.com]
d: doctrine – a particular principle, position, or policy taught or advocated, as of a religion or government [Dictionary.com]
privily shall bring in – G3919 – pareisago – to lead in aside, i.e. introduce surreptitiously [Strong’s]
a: surreptitiously – in a secret way, so that others will not notice [macmillandictionary.com]
Damnable – G684 – apoleia – ruin or loss [Strong’s]
In the TDNT it adds the word “destruction” to those listed in Strong’s.
Heresies – G139 – hairesis – a choice; i.e. (specifically) a party, or (abstract) disunion [Strong’s]
What it states in the TDNT is too long to quote here so I will paraphrase to the best of my ability. However before I do that I feel it is necessary to explain how the TDNT works. It is a scholarly study of several Greek sources of material that are centuries old. Including the Septuagint, which was commissioned by Ptolemy II Philadelphus in the second century A.D. He just happens to be the son of Cleopatra and Mark Antony. This enabled those that made this dictionary to accurately compare Hebrew and Greek to the best of their ability within the Old Testament. Thus giving them an insight into how the Greek was used in the New Testament when comparing like words and wording between the old and the new.
Now from their study of the word which gave us “heresies” they came to this determination. Heresies is likened to a political party or a sect, a cult. That breaks off from within the early church, where it got its foundations. Much like what Paul describes occurring in Galatians 1. Yet they were not teaching the true Gospel. The modern equivalent would be those that have created the prosperity churches that say God wishes us to get rich here on earth, which is totally counter to what the Bible actually teaches us (Mathew 6:19-21). I will not name names, but you may know of whom I am speaking of. Those are false teachers and those that follow and listen them and so qualify to be called “heresies.”
That bought them – G59 – agorazo – to go to market, i.e. (by implication) to purchase; specifically to redeem [Strong’s]
a: redeem – to make someone free from the power of evil, especially in the Christian religion [macmillan dictionary]
In the TDNT it boils down to the prices Jesus Christ paid for us upon the cross to save us all from the slavery of sin.
This is stating that those that become these false teachers were once given the grace of salvation. Yet they now deny this by the way they have turned away from the teachings of Christ and His disciples. Thus they are broken from the vine for the fruit they bear is evil. Which is verified in verse 2 and their fate in verse 3.
Verse 2 – And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
Verse 3 – And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
In verses 4 -6 Peter lists three great and past judgements as examples. The casting of the angels to hell. The flood which changed the earth and made it so that humanity no longer lived hundreds of years. Lastly he mentions Sodom and Gomorrha.
Now we will look at verses 7 and 8. For this shows us that even though we are saved. We have our righteousness worn down. This is something I am very familiar with myself. For I remember this erosion as I came closer and closer to my year of Job.
Verse 7 – And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
Vexed – G2669 – kataponeo – to labor down, i.e. wear with toil (figuratively harass) [Strong’s]
a: harass – to disturb persistently; torment, as with troubles or cares; bother continually; pester; persecute. [Dictionary.com]
Verse 8 – (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
Which is something I encounter nearly daily.
In verses 10 – 17 Peter describes those that live in sin and how they behave. However, it would take too long to get into and would take us off track from what I am trying to teach. However, I highly recommend, once again, these verses be read and an understanding sought after.
We, however will continue our lesson starting in verse 18:
Verse 18 – For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
They allure – G1185 – to entrap, i.e. delude [Strong’s]
a: entrap – to bring unawares into difficulty or danger: to draw into contradiction or damaging admission: to lure into performing an act or making a statement that is compromising or illegal. [Dictionary.com]
b: delude – to make someone believe something that is not true: [Cambridge Dictionary]
Through much wantonness – G766 – aselgeia – licentiousness (sometimes including other vices) [Strong’s}
a: licentiousness – lacking legal or moral restraints [Merriam-Webster dictionary]
In the TDNT I quote: “It characterizes Sodom and Gomorrah…..” [Book I, page 490]
Those that were clean – G3689 – ontos – really; certainly; clean; indeed; of a truth; verify: adverb of the oblique cases of “on” – being, when, was, which [Strong’s]
a: certainly – used to reply completely or to emphasize something and show that there is no doubt about it [Cambridge dictionary]
Escaped – G668 – apopheugo – to escape [Strong’s]
So: “those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.”
Could translate to “those which certainly escaped from them who live in error.”
So even though the wording could be translated differently the meaning is still the same. Those that live in sin tempt those that have turned to God’s salvation through Jesus Christ. As will be enforced later.
We continue in verse 19 to see who the true slaves in this situation are.
Verse 19 – While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
So even though there is a promise of freedom. In actuality they are being draw into slavery to sin and so they server their master, which is evil itself.
Now to look at verse 20:
Verse 20 – For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
The knowledge – G1922 – epignosis – recognition, i.e. (by implication) full discernment, acknowledgement [Strong’s]
a: recognition – agreement that something is true or legal [Cambridge dictionary]
b: discernment – the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure [Merriam-Webster dictionary]
c: acknowledgement – recognition of the existence or truth of something
Entangled – G1707 – empleko – to entwine, i.e. (figuratively) involve with [Strong’s]
Overcome – G1096, G2274 – ginomai, hettaomai:
Ginomai – to cause to be (“gen”-erate), i.e. (reflexively) to become (come into being) [Strong’s]
Hettaomai, hettao – to be inferior; usage – I am defeated, am overcome, am made inferior [biblehub.com]
Meaning to cause to be defeated.
The statement being made here is that those that became saved in the full knowledge of Jesus Christ and thus tying into verse 18. Become temped by the world and those in it to return to sin. Then it finishes that they would be better if had they never learned and were given salvation. Which is explained in the next verse.
Verse 21: For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
Delivered – G3860 – to surrender, i.e. to deliver over to another to keep, yield up, entrust, transmit
Peter ends this part of his letter with this:
Verse 22 – But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
The sin which was vomited out is revisited to once again be taken in. While the washing of salvation that is given when accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior is ruined by returning to the mire of the sinful world, which they willingly return to. For the comfort they receive from the world, is better than what is required to live a life where we must constantly struggle to remain clean.
In summary
I have now established and given a solid foundation of who the “lukewarm” are.
In the first podcast I showed that they had asked Jesus to be their Savior and had become saved by receiving grace from God. Yet they turn their back upon their salvation for the distractions of the world through a watered down and false gospels that did not challenge them to stay true to their Savior.
In the second I reinforced this foundation with showing that they were upon the vine that is Jesus Christ and they chose not to bear fruit and so were removed from the vine by God Himself.
In the third podcast I showed that at one point they did service for God in the name of Jesus Christ and bore fruit that can only be done if Jesus is a part of their life. Yet they later selected to stop bearing valuable fruit and instead began to bear unsuitable fruit. Then when they stand before the Great White Throne. Jesus will testify against them and they will not be allowed into the eternal life that is to come.
In the fourth I showed how false teachers will also have once been saved and willingly turn their backs upon God to seek after the pleasures and rewards that this world offers instead of the enteral treasures we are promised from Jesus Christ. They instead decide to choose the here and now over what is promised all of us in the future.
When we accept Jesus Christ as our Savior we do not choose the world, for this domain we live in is not the creation we are promised. This short time we live upon this planet is nowhere near the life we will have in the glorious eternal life that is to come.
So we have struggles and trials. Is this not the pruning we are told will occur unto us in John 15? We cannot allow ourselves to fall for the temptations to seek after our lusts or our greed that is offered by the world around us. For our true rewards are not here within this realm, but in the true life we are promised. When Jesus Christ returns, that will be the true beginning of our true lives. For everyone, be they sinner or saint.
And so this ends the identification of who are the lukewarm. They are those that believe they are Christians. Yet they have turned form God to seek after wealth and pleasures of this earthly existence. They say they are Christians, yet they are hypocrites and most don’t even realize this very truth.
But it is not too late. They can turn back to God through His Son our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. All they need to do is to ask His forgiveness and turn away from the world and return to God. This means they must change how they live their lives, but it is the only way to return to God. They must not be the young rich man who is asked to sell all his worldly goods and turns away from Jesus in bewilderment. For he did not understand what Jesus was asking him to do. If you must sell all your earth goods. Do so. If you must turn away from the world of sports. Do so. If you must turn away from the TV screen you stare at for hours on end. Do so. Return to your Savior Jesus Christ and answer His call and do what He asks of you. Without question, just do it.
God Bless.

Blog post for podcast #4


intro
Hello this is Dreamwalker1960
Before I begin today’s lesson I have to say that I messed up a fact in the previous podcast. I had states that Jesus talked to His disciples after His crucifixion in John 15, this was incorrect. It was before. It doesn’t take away from the lesson, it just shows I am human.
To start I will refresh you of the previous two broadcast. In the first we established that the “lukewarm” were people that had received the grace from God and thus salvation. Yet they turned their backs upon Jesus to listen to watered down teachings of the Gospel.
Then in the last broadcast. We showed that Jesus Christ is the vine and you can only be a part of the vine if you had salvation. Yet if they did not bear fruit they were removed from the vine and given over willingly unto the fire, because they found the world more entertaining.
Today we expand upon what we found out in our study of John 15 last time.
Today we will look into Matthew 7 where Jesus explains on how to identify false prophets and as to who may enter into heaven. But why here. Because here we have another fruit bearing example much like John 15 but with direct bearing upon why fruit is born or not born. Now even though the verses in question goes from verse 15-23 we will overlook some of them for the sake of time and hit upon the important ones for our discussion. However I will list all nine of them for the sake of context.
Matthew 7: 15 “Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. 16 You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. 18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. 19 So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. 20 Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.
21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’
The breakdown
We look more closely beginning with verses 17 and 18. So here they are in the KJV
17 – Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 – A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Bringeth; bring forth – G4160 – poieo – to make or do [Strong’s]
Evil – G4190 – poneros – hurtful, i.e. evil (in effect or influence) [Strong’s]
“’poneros’ is used in {this verse} to denote ‘unserviceable’ or ‘useless’ fruit as distinct from the ‘karpos kalos’ of the good tree.” [TDNT]
a: unserviceable – not suitable to be used [Collins Dictionary]
A corrupt; can a corrupt – G4550 – sapros – rotten, i.e. worthless [Strong’s]
Good – G2570 – (which is different from the “good” at the beginning of this verse) – kalos – good i.e. valuable or virtuous
My translation of verse 18 – A good tree cannot bear useless fruit, neither can a rotten tree bear valuable fruit.
Verse 19 (KJV) – Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Is hewn down – G1581 – ekkopto – to exscind; to frustrate [Strong’s]
a: exscind – to cut out or off [dictionary.com]
“Hewing down is a symbol of the complete separation of a man from life” [TDNT]
Cast – G906 – ballo – to throw (in various applications, more or less violent or intense) [Strong’s]
The fire – G4442 – pyr – pur – fire [Strong’s]
A judgement [TDNT]
Now we will move on to verse 22 in the KJV
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Prophesied – G4395 – to foretell events, divine, speak under inspiration, exercise the prophetic office [Strong’s]
Have cast out – G1544 – ekballo – to eject [Strong’s]
Devils – G1140 – daimonion – a demonic being [Strong’s]
Wonderful works – G1411 – dynamis; dunamis – force, specifically miraculous power (usually by implication a miracle itself) {[Strong’s]
The insinuation of this verse when taken in context with verse 21; (Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. {KJV}).
Is that these are people are standing before the Great White Throne on that day of judgement that will occur after the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ. (Revelation 20:11- 15)
Now as was established in verses 17 and 18 only someone who is good or saved can give prophecy, cast out demons and do true miracles. This supports what we covered in the last podcast of John 15. These people were once saved and given grace through their salvation in and from Jesus Christ as was shown in Galatians 1.
Verse 23 – And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Will I profess – G3670 – homologeo – to assent, i.e. covenant, acknowledge [Strong’s]
In the TDNT it continues into a deeper breakdown – to promise, to admit, to concede, to make a statement, to bear witness. It goes on to say Jesus used this wording as a form of excommunication.
a: excommunication – excluded from the rights of church membership [Merriam-Webster Dictionary]
To be excommunicated you have to be a part of the church in the first place. I must also state here that Jesus’ use of this wording is a type of Jewish legalese used when some type of judgement is taking place.
Iniquity – G458 – anomia – illegality, i.e. violation of law or wickedness [Strong’s]
In the TDNT it is note as:
…. The word “nomos” (G3551) give two shades of meaning to “anomia.” The reference is either a. to a fact, “there is or was no law,” “without a (the) law,” or b. the word means “against the (a) law,” with an implied judgement since it is assumed that there is in fact a binding law.
This supports that this verse is a type of legalistic statement. So Christ is distancing Himself from those He had once welcomed unto the vine. Yet now, since they chose the world over salvation. He is placing as much distant between Himself and them by using such an extreme stance. Due to free will every human being has a choice in how they wish to live their lives. God and His Son our Savior truly and completely desire to have us in the vine of Christ. Yet it is we who decide how we will or will not bear fruit. It is we humans that have the most important part in this relationship with God through His Son our Savior. Yet millions of people willingly choose not to bear fruit.
So the implication is that Jesus is stating here that He will stand as a witness testifying that these people who were once counted as member within the Church of Jesus Christ and have been removed due to their willful breaking of the laws given within the Bible and choosing to live willingly in the world, instead of with God who had bestowed the grace upon them through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ upon the cross.
Summary
So here I have given further foundation that those that are the lukewarm are those that have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior. I have also shown that the evidence of this is that they did or do great works for Jesus Christ. They have done miracles and even cast out demons. All of which cannot be done unless Jesus Christ is with them as was established not only in verse 17 and 18, but also John 15:5-11.
Then somewhere along the lines they turned away from the teachings of the Bible which is our laws we are to follow, and so they are cut off from the Holy Vine that is Jesus Christ since they choose to no longer bear fruit. And as is shown in verse 19, as well as in John 15:6 are willingly cast into the fire.
So everyone should think about where they are with their life with God. Are they praying constantly? Are they obeying the laws of the land that do not go against the Bible? Like for example following the speed limit. Are they studying the Bible, not just reading it but going deep into the word as I have been doing with these broadcasts? This is what we all have been asked to do. God loves everyone and seeks to have all with Him. But due to the free will He has given all of us. He knows many will choose to be their own god. Seek out Jesus and ask for His help. He will help those that only ask and pray for it.
To see a detailed breakdown of this please go to dreamwalker1960.com
I hope this helps those listening to come to understand.
God Bless

Blog for podcast #3


Intro

((Due to an error on my part. I state this ((teaching to His disciples was after His ((crucifixion. This is not accurate. It was ((before. However it does not take away from ((the message. It just sbows I am only human.

Welcome to today’s podcast. I am Dreamwalker1960.
Due to some feedback announcing the Strong’s reference numbers was confusing folks so I will still have them but they can be seen in my blog dreamwalker1960.com
Today we expand upon who is a lukewarm in John 15.
John 15:1 “I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. 3 You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.
5“Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing. 6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned. 7 But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted! 8 When you produce much fruit, you are my true disciples. This brings great glory to my Father.

The breakdown
Verse 1: I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. (KJV)
I – G1473 – ego – a primary pronoun of the first person. I (only expressed when emphatic.) [Strong’s Expanded Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, 2010] {Strong’s}
a – emphatic – done or said in a strong way and without any doubt [Cambridge Dictionary] {CD}
Here is where we need to go deeper though. For John, especially when quoting Jesus, there is a more profound and powerful imagery that comes out. With the simple word “I” Jesus shows His resurrected form. In these teachings that are given they do not follow the normal syntax. They reach to a new level like saying: “He is light. But He is the true and proper light which alone deserves this name.” [Theological Dictionary of the New Testament] {TDNT}
The true – G228 – alethinos – truthful – “true” which denotes the sense of real, ideal, genuine. [Strong’s]
In this deep look we see here Jesus saying “the true” He is not just speaking of “true” or “genuine.” He is actually saying “divine.” [TDNT]
a – divine – connected with a god or like a god. [CD]
Just in these four words (“I am the vine”) Jesus is showing this He is the true and divine vine, and no other can come to God except through being a branch upon His vine.
Father – G3962 – pater – a nourisher, protector, upholder; of the nearest ancestor. [Strong’s]
In the deeper study within TDNT it is showing us the “harmony of the Father and the Son.” Of the two working together for the good of those that are on the vine which is Jesus. {book V p. 999 – 1001}
The husbandman – G1092 – georgos – a land-worker, i.e. farmer, a vinedresser [Strong’s]
a – vinedresser – a person who cultivates and prunes grapevines [Dictionary.com]
Verse 2 – Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (KJV)
Every – G3956 – pas- all things [Strong’s]
To quote the TDNT:
“The uniqueness of the NT view is that here all ideas of totality relate to a specific history of creation and salvation. As compared with the OT, the NT is distinguished especially by a richer soteriology.”
Soteriology – theology dealing with salvation as effected by Jesus Christ.
Branch – G2814 – klema – a limb or shoot [Strong’s]
a – shoot – the first part of a plant to appear above the ground as it develops from a seed, or any new growth on an already existing plant [CD]
b – limb – a large branch of a tree [CD]
Shoot, young twig, branch, shoot of the vine [TDNT]
So this means “Every branch both young and old upon the vine which is Jesus Christ,” as the next words state.
In – G1722 – en
“The ‘en’ of Fellowship in John. Exclusively in John’s Gospel and 1 John. We have a distinctive ‘en’ of religious fellowship.” [TDNT]
Meaning a free will relationship between the branch (humanity), the Vine (Jesus Christ), and the Vinedresser (God).
Beareth – G5342 – phero – bear, bring forth [Strong’s]
Fruit – G2590 – karpos – of works or deeds [Strong’s]
“This power is fellowship with Christ.” [TDNT]
a – fellowship – a friendly feeling that exists between people who have a shared interest or are doing something as a group [CD]
He taketh away – G172 – airo – to take up or away; to take away what is attached to anything, to remove [Strong’s]
It is here that we come to an issue. In the many commentaries I read they go with the definition of “lift up,” which doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t even flow with the words of the Bible itself. When they translated the Bible to English in the early 1600s and then finalized it in 1611 they agreed upon the wording “he taketh away,” not “he lifteth up.” Those that made these commentaries made it sound as if they were lifting up to God those committing sin. This is contrary to the teachings within the Bible. We do not raise up the sin, we raise up ourselves to the altar seeking the removal of sin. Jesus Himself knew that this day would occur. So he repeats Himself in verse six and clarifies His meaning with more detail, which we will get to later. If their intent to say that the unfruitful are seeking forgiveness and wish to receive forgiveness and then to try to bear fruit. There can be some merit to that. However Jesus made Himself clear on this matter elsewhere in the Bible as well.
Revelation 3:15 “I know all the things you do, that you are neither hot nor cold. I wish that you were one or the other! 16 But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!”
In John, Jesus states that God Himself will remove the branch that does not bear fruit. Not all branches that do not bear fruit laying upon the ground, but are a part of the vine itself.
Here in Revelation the Glorified Christ is making it clear that he will spit those out that are lukewarm. Using Christ’s words in John those that bear fruit would compare to those that are hot in the Revelation. So those that are cold in Revelation equates to those that deny Jesus altogether and live in sin. So that would mean that those that are lukewarm would be those that acknowledge Jesus Christ as their Savior and so are a branch upon the vine, or were attached to the vine that is Jesus Christ. However, they bear no fruit and so are living in sin. So God takes them away in John and Christ spits them out in Revelation. Thus removing them from His fellowship cutting them from the vine. For very few fall upon the ground. Most stay on the vine unless they are cut off from it.
He purgeth – G2508 – kathairo – to cleanse, to prune, to expiate – purge
a – cleanse – to make something completely clean
b – expiate – to show that you are sorry for bad behavior by doing something or accepting punishment
c – purge – to make someone or something free of something evil or harmful.
That – G2443 – hina – in order that [Strong’s]
More – G4119 – pleion – more in quality, number or quality [Strong’s]
Verse 3 – Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Now – G2235 – ede – at (or by) this time [Strong’s]
Ye – G5210 – hymeis – yourself, you [Strong’s]
Clean – G2513 – katharos – free from impure admixture, without blemish, spotless [Strong’s]
“In both John and 1 John the question of the full purity of Christians is discussed. It is affirmed absolutely in theory in John 15:3.” [TDNT]
Through – G1223 – dia – denoting the channel of an act [Strong’s]
The word – G3056 -logos – the teachings of Jesus to the disciples that eventually became the gospels.
“But the person who receives and keeps” the teachings of Christ (the word) is now clean [TDNT in quotations]
I have spoken – G2980 – laleo – the use of this word was to show that Jesus was like a parent talking to His children, at that point the disciples. But in turn to us at went on to the present.
Verse 4 – Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. (KJV)
Abide – G3306 – meno – remain, dwell, continue [Strong’s]
“…… God abides in Christ. Believers abide in Christ, and Christ in them. God abides in believers, and believers in God. The eschatological promise of salvation becomes immediate possession in virtue of this statement in the present tense.” [TDNT book IV pg. 576]
Cannot – ou(G3756), dynamai(G1410)
a: ou – also [Strong’s]
b: dynamai – to be able or possible, can, cannot, to be able to have power [Strong’s]
Bear – G5342 – phero – to bear, carry, being moved, borne along [Strong’s]
“The term has the special sense of bearing fruit…… the vine with branches that bear fruit.” [TDNT]
Of – G575 – apo – off, away (from something near) [Strong’s]
Except – G3362 – ean me – unless, except [Strong’s]
It abide – G3306 – meno – to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy) [Strong’s] See meno above for TDNT
No more – oude(G3761), houto(G3779)
a: oude – nor however, neither, nor, not even
b: houto – in this way
Verse 5 – I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. (KJV)
And I – G2504 – kago – from kai and ego: likewise me
Much – G4183 – polys – much, many, great, abundant
Without – G5565 – choris – separately or apart from [Strong’s]
Me – G1700 – emou – of me, mine, my [Strong’s]
Do – G4160 – poieo – to make or do [Strong’s]
The use of this word “poieo” had it usage done primarily to the actions, works and miracles of Jesus Christ. [TDNT] The use here stating that only with Jesus in and with you can you do holy works.
Nothing – ou(G3756), oudeis(G3762)
a: oudeis – not even one, none, nobody, nothing [Strong’s]
“…for without me ye can do nothing.” Without having Jesus within you. You cannot bear fruit.
verse 6 – If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. (KJV)
A man – G5100 – tis – some or any person or object [Strong’s]
Me – G1698 – emoi – to me [Strong’s]
He is cast – G906 – ballo – to throw [Strong’s]
“To throw” or “to cast,” “to cast off fruit. ‘Often in the NT “ballo” is used in different ways in connection with the thought of judgement, partly as a committal to the element which exercises it. Partly of expulsion from the community of salvation, when used with “exo.” [TDNT]
Forth – G1854 – exo – out [Strong’s]
As – G5613 – hos – in that manner [Strong’s]
And – G2532 – kai – and, also, even, so, then, too. [Strong’s]
Is withered – G3583 – xeraino – to desiccate, to shrivel [Strong’s]
Men gather – G4863 – synago – sunago – to lead together, collect or convene, to entertain [Strong’s]
Them into – G1519 -eis – to or into [Strong’s]
The fire – G4442 – pyr – pur – fire [Strong’s]
A judgement [TDNT]
They are burned – G2545 – kaio – to set on fire, consume [Strong’s]
With the TDNT the emphasis of this word is keyed to self-burning. Voluntarily giving oneself over to be burned.
The main takeaways from the translation of this verse is if you accept Christ as your Savior and you choose not to follow his teaching and live a truly Christian life. You instead choose to live in the world of man which entertains you. You are broken off from the Divine Vine that is Christ and you are cast willingly into the fires of judgement. Which agrees with Revelation 3:15-16.
This also shows that we must actively and with full knowledge follow the teachings within the Bible and if it is called a sin in the Bible and we are told not to live in this fashion. Then that is what we MUST do as our part of this relationship with Jesus Christ. It is not a one-sided relationship. We have an active part within it, which we need to do or we voluntary to lose our salvation and to be removed from Jesus and His Heavenly Father. This is verified in the next verse.
Verse 7 – If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. (KJV)
Verse 8 – Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. (KJV)
Herein – en(G1722), touto(G5129)
a: touto – to (in, with, or by) this (person or thing) [Strong’s]
Glorified – G1392 – doxazo – to render (or esteem) glorious [Strong’s]
Shall ye be – G1096 – ginomai – to cause to be, to become [Strong’s]
Disciples – G3701 – mathetes – a learner [Strong’s]
Summary
One important factor that needs to be made here. When Christ is giving this lesson to the disciples. He has been resurrected. This is after the crucifixion. So to see Jesus as the Divine Vine gives true meaning to that imagery.
He makes it clear that to be a part of Him upon this vine you are one with Him. So you are saved. So to be able to be on the vine you have had to be grafted onto the vine. Meaning to be saved. So again we see that those that are on the vine can stop bearing fruit. You can only not bear fruit when Jesus is not a part of you. If you were saved but Jesus is not a port of you then what are you? You are the lukewarm. And as seen in Revelation 3 you are seen as worse than those that that deny God altogether.
So as has been shown in this podcast and the previous one the lukewarm were a part of the body. They were saved. As can be seen here God Himself cuts these people from the vine and gives them over to humanity. And then ultimately due to these peoples own desires and intentions are cast willingly into the fires of judgement.
In my next podcast we will look at Mathew 7 to see how people are influenced to turn willingly away from Jesus and the salvation He offers unto us all.
Again go to dreamwalker1960.com to see my blog post for this podcast.
God bless

Blog for podcast #2


Welcome to today’s podcast. I am Dreamwalker1960.
Today we will start on our journey to awaken the lukewarm to the reality of the Bible and the importance to have a daily if not hourly relationship with God through His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
We start in Galatians. Why There? For this is when we truly see the lukewarm already showing their true form.
The lesson
Galatians 1:6- I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to himself through the loving mercy of Christ. You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News 7 but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ.
8 Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. 9 I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed.

The breakdown
Verse 6 from the KJV – I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel
Marvel – G2296 – thaumazo – to wonder, to admire [Strong’s]
It is used here in a literary from to express surprise [TDNT]
I actual take the use of the word to not just surprise but a type of sarcasm. He is bewildered and shocked that they would surrender their salvation so easily.
Soon – G5030 – Tacheos – briefly, speedily, rapidly [Strong’s]
So quickly they turn from God.
Removed – G3346 – metatithemi – to transfer, transport, exchange, change sides, pervert [Strong’s]
To turn from, to fall away, to become apostate [TDNT]
Apostate – someone who has given up their religion or left a political party [Cambridge dictionary]
Him that called – G2564 – kaleo – to call
The grace – G5485 – charis – graciousness; the divine influence upon the heart and its reflection in the life [Strong’s]
Christ – Christos
Another – G2087 – heteros – other or different [Strong’s]
Gospel – G2098 – enangelion – a good message, i.e. the gospel [Strong’s]
The implication is clear in this one verse. These people were saved and given salvation in the name of Jesus Christ from God. They were given grace.
“Grace” is a word I hear a lot of. Too many once they receive “Grace” think they are good to go. They are saved. They are fine. They can live their lives as they so seem fit to do so.
This one verse brings the lie to their words. This one verse shows they are lukewarm, and that the lukewarm have existed even in Paul’s time upon this earth. Again we hit upon a future podcast, but we shall continue.
There are many interpretations as to what is meant by another gospel. For that time it was aimed at false apostles. Claiming to represent Jesus and God. My view is that it was aimed for those that live in this time as well, but in a context that fits in today’s body of Christ. Again I will show in another lesson how God includes the time we now live within. But due to this belief “another gospel” has many meanings today. The most important of these is the watered down gospel that is being spoken in the buildings called “churches.” Why? To make money. For if you let people know that they are lukewarm they will not attend these “churches,” because they do not wish to hear that they are living in sin, and so these building will not exist without this false gospel. Moses made it clear in Deuteronomy 4 that we are not to add to nor take away from what is taught in the Bible. Yet most have never heard the verses I am going to address in my teachings unto you my listeners.
Verse 7 from the KJV – Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Trouble – G5015 – tarasso – to stir or agitate (roil water) [Strong’s]
A: roil – to (cause to) move quickly in a twisting circular movement [Cambridge Dictionary]
Pervert – G3344 – metastrepho – to turn across, i.e. transmute or corrupt
a: transmute – to change from one nature, substance, form, or condition into another; transform. [Dictionary.com]
b: corrupt – to change from good to bad in morals, manners, or actions [Merriam-Webster Dictionary]
My translation – There is no other Gospel, but there are some that would twist you and would corrupt the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Verse 8 from the KJV – But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Angel – G32 – angelos – aggelos – (to bring tidings; a messenger; especially an “angel” [Strong’s]
Heaven – G3772 – ouranos – the sky; by extension heaven (as the abode of God) [Strong’s]
Preach any other gospel – G2097 – euangelizo – euaggelizo – from 2095 (eu, neutral of a primary eus (good); well) and 32 (angelos – see above) to announce good new (“evangelize”) especially the gospel [Strong’s]
Accursed – G331 – anathema – from 394 (anatithemai, to set forth {for oneself} i.e. propound); a (religious) ban or excommunicated (thing or person) [Strong’s]
a: accursed – being under or as if under a curse [Merriam-Webster Dictionary]
a1: curse – exclude from a church or a religious community [Vocabulary.com]
b: excommunicate – 1. to cut off from communion with a church or exclude from the sacraments of a church by ecclesiastical sentence. 2. to exclude or expel from membership or participation in any group, association, etc.
Paul makes it clear that if anyone even themselves or an angelic being preaches another gospel that being is removed from Jesus and thus God.
Verse 9 of the KJV – As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Any other – G3844 – para – near, i.e. from beside, at (or in) the vicinity of (object or subject) [Strong’s]
Here Paul re-emphasis that if you are given a good news that is not the exact teachings from the letters or personally from the disciples or the Tanakh that person is cursed.
So when people remove items or change them in the bible which has been done 58 times in the NIV bible that version of the bible is actually cursed and those that changed are as well. Or when they say they have received a gospel or teaching from a glowing angelic form they have received a cursed teaching which has happened two times that I am aware of.
NIV examples –
Philippians 3:21
KJV says, “Vile bodies.” NIV says, “lowly bodies.” These words have different meanings. Vile means sinful and lowly means humble.
Ephesians 5:9
KJV says “Fruit of the Spirit.” NIV says, “Fruit of the light.”
Galatians 4:7
KJV says “servant,” and not “slave,” as translated in the NIV.
A servant has the choice of leaving his master and a slave does not have a choice.
The importance of this translation is that we have a choice of serving Christ or of deserting Him, whereas, a slave does not have that choice.

This is why it is so important to:
1) Study not just read the Bible yourself
2) Do not take the word of others without verification from the Bible
3) Make sure what you are hearing is taken in context from the Bible
May times people take verses from the Bible and use them incorrectly because they are not using them in context.
One of the most misused is do not judge. The main teaching of this is in Matthew 7.
They just throw out the first verse of this teaching “Do not judge others, and you will not be judged.”
Yet it actually ends in context in verse 5
““Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. 2 For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged. 3 “And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own? 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.”
In the Greek the speck is more accurately translated as a splinter of wood. So we are speaking of a splinter and a log, both made of wood. This means the same sin.
Jesus is telling us to address our own sins which are the same but greater than the other persons. Fix our own sin, then once that is done and we are without this sin we can then help the other person.
This deals with hypocrisy. Not judging one another.
Summary
The lukewarm are those that have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior and have received the grace of salvation from God. But are turned away from God for they listen to a gospel that is not true and accurate to the Old Testament and New Testament as given by God, Jesus and the disciples. So THEY believe they ARE saved. Yet they live their live in sin.
The good news though is that if they come to realize this and to truly seek after God through His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. They can fix this issue.
Many live under the impression that they accept God in the name of Jesus that is all there is to it. They don’t have to do anything else. That is the total opposite of what needs to take place.
They need to seek after God daily not just on Sunday. But every single day. It is an active relationship that God desires from us all. Where we pray to Him many times a day. That we seek to obey the laws of the land that do not go against the laws within the Bible. That we strive not to commit anything that is called a sin within the Bible. We live a daily life in and for God, in the Name of His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
In the Next podcast we look at John 15 Jesus the Vine those who and do not bear fruit. God bless.
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