Intro

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Discussion

Those that seek to please the self. Those that believe that they are an example to humanity. Those that believe they are better than anyone else are all purveyors of chaos. The Bible says this about these types of people:

2 Timothy 3:1-5 –  But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

1 John 2:15-16 – Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world.

Galatians 5:19-21 – Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Matthew 15:18-19 – But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.

All that is listed here is chaos.

Chaos can take many forms. In the entertainment industry like movies and TV shows, it is usually depicted as wars or some type of conflict. In reality it can be more subtle, more deceiving.

The actual definition of “chaos” is this: a state of disorder and confusion.

In today’s world we are in a time of disorder and confusion on multiple levels. In some cases, there is violence, but most of the disorder and confusion comes from everyday life itself.

The effects of order and chaos do correspond like a pendulum swinging from one side to the other. It has now swung to the side of chaos. So now we must deal with its effects and outcome of the damage that will come from it.

There are those that say chaos is good. Then there are those that know the truth and understand that chaos is always bad, and the degree to which the pendulum is allowed to swing deeper into the side of chaos demands an equal and opposite reaction of order to return the swing to go back the other way. However, even though the swing may appear equal the human cost is always greater when leaving chaos, when leaving evil. Let me explain.
The last time the swing into chaos went too far it cost over 60 million deaths, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population. Then the swing of the pendulum went into the order side.

Here is a contrast to note. For the swing of the pendulum to swing away from order and back into chaos does not necessarily require deaths to cause it, but the minds of humanity to reject order. This started and took place in the 1960s. Now the Vietnam War was going on this time and an approximate total deaths of 1,313,000 took place in that war. That was not a major factor in the change of people minds against order. Those that started the pendulum swing to chaos desired and even lusted for chaos, for sin. Not only in their hearts but their minds as well as they experimented with drugs like LSD and heroin.

They felt enslaved to order. They in their minds wished to have freedom from what they saw as constrains of order. Why this took place was a failing of those that were teaching order. From teaching the doctrines from which order resides, the Bible. For they themselves in most cases didn’t understand the teachings of the Bible. Those teaching the Bible had become legalistic, demanding order be followed, but to follow God is not something that can be demanded. It is something that is voluntary.

But understand what is meant by “legalistic.” Legalism is living the law and following the law, but not being true to the law. That is not having a repentance. Not truly desiring to be faithful to God nor His Son. That is legalism, that is being Legalistic.

What is truly sad though is due to all the chaos we now live within. Those that seek after it and truly desire it for themselves have turned into that which they themselves hated. They have become legalist of chaos. Desiring to control all by demanding that all embrace the chaos and accept it as the truth and all to ending all. Yet as has been shown the swing away from chaos back toward to order usually results in more deaths than it takes to swing from order toward chaos.

What I see in this is that through the love of Christ. He desires us to stay within the constraints of a type of order, not one dictated in legalism, but in a heartfelt desire to be obedient to all the teachings within the Bible, including those laws not replaced by Christ going to the cross. Christ desires that within an order that followed and given with love that can lead to an eternal life that has more to offer than this world we now live within could ever offer. To follow the teachings of the Bible can seem confining, but that is a test of our love and our devotion to our Savior.

Is that really so much to ask of us? I honestly don’t think so.

What is to follow is how to live within order, and if we do so we live within the laws of Moses as well.

Romans 12:9-18 – Don’t just pretend to love others. Really love them. Hate what is wrong. Hold tightly to what is good. 10 Love each other with genuine affection, and take delight in honoring each other. 11 Never be lazy, but work hard and serve the Lord enthusiastically. 12 Rejoice in our confident hope. Be patient in trouble, and keep on praying. 13 When God’s people are in need, be ready to help them. Always be eager to practice hospitality. 14 Bless those who persecute you. Don’t curse them; pray that God will bless them. 15 Be happy with those who are happy, and weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with each other. Don’t be too proud to enjoy the company of ordinary people. And don’t think you know it all! 17 Never pay back evil with more evil. Do things in such a way that everyone can see you are honorable. 18 Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone.

Galatians 5:22-23 – But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!

This is true and complete order. The furthest swing of the pendulum toward order. Yet now as stated we are at the opposite side of the swing, and the blade has gone further than ever before toward chaos. With that in mind. What will be the death toll required to have the swing head back toward order, toward Christ, toward God?

The last time was 60 million.

The Bible tells us the cost, the toll required for this next mandatory swing. It is just not what many think. Most think it is during the great disaster predicted during the tribulation. To some part that is very true, but it is not totally true.

The key is found in 2 Thessalonians.

2 Thessalonians 2:7 – For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

Now why is this? First off, we must understand that the “He” who is taken out of the way is the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20 – Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

Once we have been filled with the Holy Spirit, we are a Holy Temple unto God. That, which dwells within us cannot leave us if we stay true to God. Consequently, when the Holy Spirit is taken away all that have the temple within them are taken out of the way as well.

It has another name: a rapture.

Revelation 7:9-14 – After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” 13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” 14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Many scholars have debated this for centuries. Yet none can come to Christ without the Holy Spirit, per the words of Christ Himself:

John 3:5 – Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

If the Holy Spirit is not present, because He must be removed to allow the antichrist to be revealed, none can be saved after the midpoint of the tribulation. This must be something that is considered.

If this is factual and accurate then these “uncountable” otherwise known as billions could be considered part of the cost required. Then those others that happen during the devastation that follows are also part of that cost.

Simply it will cost billions of lives to cause the swing of the pendulum to go back to order, toward righteousness. What many don’t think about or realize is the true cost. The true deaths required in the price of being under chaos.

Death of the soul. Death that will last all eternity. Death that will include many that think they are destine to eternity.

Read the Bible for yourself. Learn the Bible for yourself. Live what is taught within the Bible for yourself.

God Bless