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Blog for Podcast #195 (The Love-fest)

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Intro

This is Dreamwalker1960. As a reminder you can read the transcripts of all my podcasts at dreamwalker1960.com. You can use most podcast platforms if you wish to listen. All you need to do is do a search for Dreamwalker1960.

Discussion

Time to time I dig up one of my old blog posts. This is one of those times. This one is how people present the love of Jesus Christ.

Message after message from the dais in the buildings called “churches” is “Jesus loves you” or “Jesus loves you as you are.”

It is true that yes both Jesus and His Father love you, but here is the problem with these messages, especially the latter one.

Because of this love if you come to Jesus as you are, He will accept you, but if you truly ask Jesus Christ into your life, you will learn that “as you are” in all cases is not enough to maintain your salvation.

Many at this point will scoff and bluster but it is true.

1 John 3:6-10 NKJV – Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him. Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.

Hebrews 10:26-27 NKJV – For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

1 Corinthians 10:13 NKJV – No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

1 John 2:3-6 NKJV – Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

Galatians 5:19-21 NKJV – Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

What you have read or just heard did not come from me. These are the Bible. This is what those on the dais should be telling you. They should say, yes God loves you, but once Jesus is TRULY in you sin will bring great inner conflict at times, remorse and sorrow at the least, if you continue to live in any sin. Will we be able to shed all sin? No, for we are imperfect beings. But major sins will be a burden upon us to cast away.

Any that say “Jesus will love you exactly as you are forever” is a liar and they have shown who they truly follow, and it is not Jesus Christ.

Proverbs 13:24 NKJV – He who spares his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.

Any parent that does not spank their child when they have done wrong hates them and wishes them to be dead. Dead as in not alive with the love of Jesus Christ and have the ability through His salvation to live an eternal life.

Now spankings come in many forms. Not just a hit on the rear end. It is also to be verbally scolded when you do wrong and sins are wrong, ALL sin. If you are not admonished, then they truly do not desire you to have eternal joy and happiness. This is what this means that they hate you.

This also goes to teaching people the Bible. If you do not do as the Bible says to teach them all that is within the Bible. To tell them that if they live in sin they will never be welcomed into heaven, then those that do not teach the Bible or teach the Bible correctly have only one goal in mind. To have you join them in the pit of fire in eternal agony and pain as worms eat upon your undying flesh as it is lashed with fire.

Many misuse the word “love” this way. This caused me to write another posting:

There is a big misconception going about that needs to be addressed. In one of my previous posts “The hippie Jesus is alive and well but the true Christ is hard to find.” I tried to point out that love is not all happiness and joy and all is right with the world.

First, we must remember that in proverbs it states that if a parent truly loves their child they would not spare the rod. I.e. spank them. Yet in today’s society that is something that is evil and taboo. It is amazing how what is right and good is suddenly the opposite. Big sign of troubles coming to this world, yet most will just laugh it off and stop reading or listening here just because I worded my sentence that way.

True love from a parent is not easy. They suffer as much as the child when they are forced to punish them, do you think God is any less upset?

When you allow a sin to grow. All those that allow it to grow actually say they hate the world and those they allow to sin. Now I am not saying go out and force people not to sin. That will never happen and then I would be the fanatic some of you already think I am.

A new awakening is now taking place. The world is now drawing the lines between those that will choose God and those that will choose sin. This line is not a straight line as many would assume but it cuts throughout groups that though themselves to be churches and those that have always thought they were not. It cuts across races, creeds and sexes.

What you need to understand is that those that are truly “Loved” by God avoid sin, for they have felt the guilt and discomfort sin brings into their lives. Those that deny God’s love embrace sin and embrace those that embrace sin. Once again, the world is returning to black and white, sinner and saint, bad and good. Which side of the line do you stand upon?

If you stand with God and place Him first, you have only one choice. Reject the sin and accept God.

Matthew 12:30 NKJV – He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

One of the greatest verses to me personally about love is found in Revelation.

Revelation 3:19 NKJV – As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.

Rebuke – G1651 – elegchó – to expose, convict, admonish.

Chasten – G3811 – paideuó – discipline (by punishment), educate, train, correct, learn.

If those upon the dais and behind the pulpit only teach love and nothing else. They are not teaching love; they are teaching hate. For they hate and wish all to join them in the second death.

Any who continually says love, love, love. Despise and truly wish you to experience eternal damnation.

If they truly love you, they will strive to tell you that to live in sin is bad. They will strive to help you to follow the laws found and taught within the Word of God.

Along these lines. Those that push not to fear also are teaching those that listen to live in sin. For this breeds pride and a haughty attitude. What does the Bible tell us when this occurs?

Proverbs 8:13 NKJV – The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; Pride and arrogance and the evil way And the perverse mouth I hate.

By fearing God, we hate evil, pride and arrogance. Yet I know of many that take extreme pride to the point of arrogance. For having the Lord within them makes them gods on earth and they can achieve anything they desire here on earth.

By thinking they can receive and achieve anything here on earth this shows one thing. They are not worshipping God through Jesus Christ. Then who are they worshipping?

Luke 4:6 NKJV – And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

Any who receives earthly rewards are receiving their rewards from the father of all lies himself and it is he they worship. For they are rewarded with earthly treasures.

1 John 2:15-16 NLT – Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you. For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world.

When people teach messages like this. This is love. For they are striving to rebuke and chasten those listening or reading with the Truth of the Word of God.

So, what is the fate of those that do nothing but teach love, love, love and you can receive anything through God being within you?

Galatians 1:6-10 NLT – I am shocked that you are turning away so soon from God, who called you to himself through the loving mercy of Christ. You are following a different way that pretends to be the Good News but is not the Good News at all. You are being fooled by those who deliberately twist the truth concerning Christ. Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you. I say again what we have said before: If anyone preaches any other Good News than the one you welcomed, let that person be cursed. Obviously, I’m not trying to win the approval of people, but of God. If pleasing people were my goal, I would not be Christ’s servant.

They are twice over cursed. Cursed to damnation. Repent for time is running out.

God Bless

If all you hear is “Love.”

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Message after message from the dais in churches is “Jesus loves you” or “Jesus loves you as you are.”
It is true that yes both Jesus and His Father love you, but here is the problem with these messages, especially the latter one.
Because of this love if you come to Jesus as you are, He will accept you, but if you truly ask Jesus Christ into your life you will learn that “as you are” in all cases is not enough to maintain your salvation.
Many at this point will scoff and bluster but it is true.
1 John 3:6-10New Living Translation (NLT)
6 Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin. But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is. 7 Dear children, don’t let anyone deceive you about this: When people do what is right, it shows that they are righteous, even as Christ is righteous. 8 But when people keep on sinning, it shows that they belong to the devil, who has been sinning since the beginning. But the Son of God came to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. 10 So now we can tell who are children of God and who are children of the devil. Anyone who does not live righteously and does not love other believers does not belong to God.
Hebrews 10:26-27New Living Translation (NLT)
26 Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins. 27 There is only the terrible expectation of God’s judgment and the raging fire that will consume his enemies.
1 Corinthians 10:13New Living Translation (NLT)
13 The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand. When you are tempted, he will show you a way out so that you can endure.
1 John 2:3-6New Living Translation (NLT)
3 And we can be sure that we know him if we obey his commandments. 4 If someone claims, “I know God,” but doesn’t obey God’s commandments, that person is a liar and is not living in the truth. 5 But those who obey God’s word truly show how completely they love him. That is how we know we are living in him. 6 Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did.
Galatians 5:19-21New Living Translation (NLT)
19 When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, 21 envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
What you have read above did not come from me. These are the Bible. This is what those on the dais should be telling you. They should say, yes God loves you, but once Jesus is TRULY in you sin will bring great inner conflict at times, remorse and sorrow at the least, if you continue to live in any sin. Will we be able to shed all sin? No, for we are imperfect beings. But major sins will be a burden upon us to cast away.
Any that say “Jesus will love you exactly as you are forever” is a liar and they have shown who they truly follow and it is not Jesus Christ.
Proverbs 13:24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Any parent that does not spank their child when they have done wrong hates them and wishes them to be dead. Dead as in not alive with the love of Jesus Christ and have the ability through His salvation to live an eternal life.
Now spankings come in many forms. Not just a hit on the rear end. It is also to be verbally scolded when you do wrong and sins are wrong, ALL sin. If you are not admonished then they truly do not desire you to have eternal joy and happiness. This is what this means that they hate you.
This also goes to teaching people the Bible. If you do not do as the Bible says to teach them all that is within the Bible. To tell them that if they live in sin they will never be welcomed into heaven, then those that do not teach the Bible or teach the Bible correctly have only one goal in mind. To have you join them in the pit of fire in eternal agony and pain as worms eat upon your undying flesh as it is lashed with fire.

True Christians truly do care

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But most don’t want to hear what they have to say.
A Christian is like a parent to their children. They know what is right and have been through the same pains their children are going through, but the child doesn’t want to hear the advice or even accept the discipline that is sometimes required. This is extremely prevalent with those that do not wish to spank their children. Do you know that the Bible states if you do not spank your child you actually hate them (Proverbs 13:24). Now why is that? Because in some cases the only way to get through to the child is to cause them pain. Now I must say you do not need to go to extremes like that football player did a year back with the switch… that is too far and too much. But it is through pain that we all learn our lessons even as adults, it is usually emotional pain for adults though.
Without pain we do not learn if you do not learn then you are destine to repeat the same wrong over and over and in so doing will become lost to the point that Christ may even spit you out of His Body (Revelation 3:15-16). To allow this to happen is a type of hatred. It is this hatred that Christians do not have and any wise parent does not have either. For a truly loving parent truly and wholeheartedly loves their children and wishes them to do only what is good and righteous.
It is through confrontation with those that sin that Christians spank. Now you have to understand, most dictionaries give the incorrect definition of the word “confrontation.” Most say it is some type of violence. This is not correct. It is in actually a standing for your principles and not backing down from them. It is staying solid to your point and making it clear that for example if something in the Bible is said to be bad, wrong and something you should not do it is a sin. It is here that those sinning get a pain within them and it is a pain they wish to run away from. But truly good Christians will, reprove, rebuke and then exhort (2 Timothy 4:1-5) them to do what is right in God’s eyes and cause them to go down the painful road.
The pain is required.
There is no way around the pain. Trust me on this one, been there, done that…. Not fun. But from that pain my faith and trust in God grew, my believe in God grew, my understanding of God grew.
Now I can tell you I do not see things like a lot of other Christians do. In fact I do not think any Christian thinks exactly the same as any other Christian. I am willing to allow science to prove God while there are those that think science is nothing but a lie. Now you have to also understand that someone’s theory stated in a scientific manner as fact is a lie. In fact most “theories” are a joke, but when you apply true science you come to understand that God is real.
Case in point, the belief in multiple universes or multiple dimensions as it was originally called. The Bible states this is real. Is not heaven another reality? Yes it is and this is where God and His Son Jesus is at this very moment. So in this the Bible and science agree.
Do I think there are things in science that need to change? Yes. I think carbon dating needs to be revised since when it was first established our understanding of how the layers of the earth were made are not the same as they are today. Like for example the asteroid that hit the Yucatan Peninsula. This was not discovered till recently but it added several inches if not feet to the layering of the earth. So something that took place in a few days in reality is shown to be several hundred to thousands of years in carbon dating. So this shows that science needs to be re-evaluated.
This is how I differ from other Christians, but one thing is constant in all true believers. If the Bible says this is so or that is so. That is fact. So if something is a sin it is a sin and you must stop this sin. The greater the sin the greater the pain. Homosexuals must leave their lovers and end that lifestyle. Will that be easy? No. Will it be painful? Yes, but per the Bible it must be done and has been done (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).
But because God loves you, you must endure this pain to be with Him. If you do not endure this pain and wish to live in sin then you will have everlasting pain. That is why when someone that loves you makes you suffer pain for a short time it is for your own good and it proves they love you. For an eternity in pain is all you will have if you are hated and do not know the short and temporal pain we experience here in this reality. For beyond the temporal will come the eternal and it would be worth the pain suffered here. Because to see the beauty and joys that come from an eternity serving God throughout His creation which is the entire universe.
So which do you wish to suffer? A short momentary pain or a pain that will never cease for billions upon billions of years?
This is why we must suffer punishments from our parents, and from God. And this is why the Bible verse says if you spare the rod you hate your child for by not suffering this momentary pain you are cursing them to eternal pain and only someone that hates someone could do that. We all must go through the pain for once we have emerged upon the other side we are better than we were before.
Stop seeking out the temporal pleasures of this short existence. An existence that will last slightly longer than one hundred years. Seek out the existence that is promised to all that follow the teachings of Christ within the Bible. Turn from sin. Stop living in the moment and start living for that which will last forever.
This is why true Christians care so much for their fellow humans. This is why those that truly follow Christ’s teachings say you must stop living in sin. Any that says you can live in your sin and still get into the eternal hates you, for odds are in favor they hate themselves and all misery loves company.
Accept Jesus Christ, turn to Him and ask His help to end your sin, and realize that there will be pain that follows, but also realize that pain is fleeting, but it is much better than the alternative of a joyous and painless life now and the total opposite for billions of years later.
Heaven is only a holding ground for those awaiting the return of Christ upon the Mount of Olives. Beyond that day eternity begins.

Some questions were asked.

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On Facebook someone read my post from Monday and asked me some questions. What is to follow was my response to these questions.
You have asks several and very important questions that everyone that calls themselves “Christian” should be asking. If some were for your own personal dilemma or to cause other readers to think I don’t know, but I will assume for the response which Christ Himself would address if He was responding to your questions.
The question was asked:
“How much must we hate someone to let them die in their sin?”
In the past when the Bible was more widely read and understood by most in the population, which itself could not occur until after the mass production of the King James Version of the Bible, I would say it was a type of hatred. But in today’s society where few can in any honesty say that they have truly read the Bible and take the word of what they hear form a pastor or priest once a week, as to truly “knowing” the Bible. Most in today’s religious sector that call themselves “Christian” are the lukewarm, which is so disliked by Jesus Christ Himself that he says he would rather we deny God then to be lukewarm. (Revelation 3:14-22)
Due to their own lukewarm life they do not realize that they are not one with Christ, but are living in a false relationship with who they think God and His Son are.
Many that do know of the true relationship with Christ are driven by the Holy Spirit to reach out to the masses, be they lukewarm or cold. There are other that are awakening to their “hot” understanding of the teaching of Jesus and His disciples. They ask this very question that you have asked. I know I did and as a result I was guided to write a blog in an attempt to awaken those that are the “lukewarm.” That is my calling. For we are in the age of the seventh letter to the churches within the book of Revelation.
When someone is “hot” for Christ they are unable to sit on their laurels of their salvation and they seek even through hardship to help others awaken to the truly eternal life which can only come by placing God at the core of their everyday life 24/7/365.
Matthew 22:36 – Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment.
The question was asked:
“Dare I say if I don’t promote the Gospel of Christ and people around me die in their sin, does that make me a murderer at heart?”
Per 1 John 3:14 – If we love our brothers and sisters who are believers, it proves that we have passed from death to life. But a person who has no love is still dead. 15 Anyone who hates another brother or sister is really a murderer at heart. And you know that murderers don’t have eternal life within them. 16 We know what real love is because Jesus gave up his life for us. So we also ought to give up our lives for our brothers and sisters. 17 If someone has enough money to live well and sees a brother or sister in need but shows no compassion—how can God’s love be in that person? 18 Dear children, let’s not merely say that we love each other; let us show the truth by our actions. 19 Our actions will show that we belong to the truth, so we will be confident when we stand before God. 20 Even if we feel guilty, God is greater than our feelings, and he knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if we don’t feel guilty, we can come to God with bold confidence. 22 And we will receive from him whatever we ask because we obey him and do the things that please him. 23 And this is his commandment: We must believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as he commanded us. 24 Those who obey God’s commandments remain in fellowship with him, and he with them. And we know he lives in us because the Spirit he gave us lives in us.
“We must believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as he commanded us. Those who obey God’s commandments remain in fellowship with him, and he with them. And we know he lives in us because the Spirit he gave us lives in us.”
Matthew 28:18 – And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
I think this answers your question.
The question was asked:
“If I have knowledge of a way for others to live eternally with God, yet don’t share it, haven’t I missed the entire Gospel myself?”
Yes.

Confessions of a screwed up middle aged man: the grudge

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There is a young lady I work with that has been indoctrinated heavily into the liberal mentality. One of the strongest is one is that everything must be done their way or they will hate you and hold a grudge against you. There is other points that show how she thinks and believes, but that is not necessary for me to share with you, just know that I have no doubt about how she believes and thinks.
Now I have to admit since I am human there have been a couple of things that we have butted heads about. The last being me playing Christmas music from Thanksgiving till Christmas Eve. Now I admit I did not behave well on that issue and did apologies. Was just not in the mood to have to challenge my believe in God over secular Christmas music. Trust me there is a bit of difference between Christian Christmas music and secular. As it is it was clear she does not believe in Christmas or the REAL reason it is celebrated.
It is obvious that she hates me. Now I really have not done anything against her, but due to her brainwashing I am evil incarnate. Which is truly sad that she thinks this way.
Now like I said we have butted heads, but unlike her I greet her with a smile and a hello and goodnight. I do this to all, for it is the correct thing to do, especially when you say you are a Christian. She turns her head, refuses to talk and has hate written all over her face, but I will not let this deter me from doing what is right. I will continue to be nice to her, and it will be as Jesus has told us to act. Treat your neighbor as you would want to be treated, a better phrasing is the golden rule: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
This is the teaching of Christ and so I feel obligated due to His salvation of me to do this and so I shall.