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Either or?

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The other day my pastor posted this question on facebook:
“Should the word of God influence people’s lives or should the lives of people influence the word of God?”
This is a straight forward question and most answered correctly, which is the word of God influences people’s lives. Unfortunately not all answered this way. The answer they presented was this convoluted response that ended equally saying it was actually both.
Here is what Jesus says on this question:
Revelation 3:15-16 – I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
These are verses I keep coming to time and again as I type out my posting. Why? Because this is something not being taught within many churches today. They teach you that God and Jesus loves you and wants you, but they do not emphasize the need to grow in your faith.
Now why do I say grow in your faith? Because it is an ongoing ever changing process. Do you go from a newborn babe to an adult in one day? No you do not. It takes years. I know men that are in their fifties that still behave like they are in their early teens. It is this believe that once you reach a certain point you do not need to do anymore.
This is the furthest thing from the truth. A truth I had to learn the hard way. A truth that cost me all my personal possessions and the disillusion of my second marriage.
God makes it perfectly clear it is either black or white. There is no grey area. You follow His word and you are changed or you are not and you stay the same which is of the world.
You cannot be both of God and of the world. You cannot serve two masters.
Jesus makes it very clear the result. He would rather you be cold or black for Him then to be a grey a lukewarm. Now really try and think upon this. Jesus would rather you deny Him then to have asked Him into your life and you choose to live in the grey areas of your relationship with Him.
Here is an extreme example just to get the point across. Say someone is a striper, female or male, and becomes saved. They must now make an extremely hard choice. They must now decide to follow the entire Bible or to ignore this verse or that verse. This is equal to the adulteress which was going to be stoned and Jesus stepped in and stopped it. He then turned to the woman and said “Now go and sin no more.”
The striper who makes thousands of dollars in a week must now give up this job for a minimum salary job, because they did not bother to improve their minds to get a better paying job. Following the Bible cost them in the world, but the hardship that is to follow strengthens them and makes them ready for the next struggle. For if God wishes to use us He will place us through many trails. Each one tearing away a sin that is within us. Ever striving to become as pure as possible even though we shall fall short. It is when we live our life’s like this is when we are seen with favor form Him, for He sees that we are moving up the narrow and winding road, filled with its rocks and nails toward Him and our final reward which is an eternal life. A life that will last billions of years and all for His glory.
So to reaffirm the answer to the question my pastor posted you must be white and hot for God by letting the word of God influence how we are to live our life for Him as is prescribed for us within the word of God… the Bible.

The modern day Lot: Part 2: The “I must walk with the sinner” excuse

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Now I wish to make this perfectly clear from the outset. Yes we must go to the sinners and live amongst them to be a living light of what it is to be a child of God. Why? Mainly to shine the light upon them in their darkness so they can see what is good and what is bad in the eyes of God, but we are not to be with them for years, months, weeks or even days. We are to seek out our main fellowship with other Christians the be strengthened in the Lord.
Hebrews 10: 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21 And having an high priest over the house of God; 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Here is where things differ and what many that use the excuse in the title forget to follow and understand. There comes a point where you must separate yourselves from those that sin or you risk not only your own salvation but those that you may be reaching.
We are told in 1 Corinthians 5: 9-10 we are given a list of sinners we are not to maintain a long relationship with because we will become bound to the world which is the opposite of God.
Must ye needs -3784. opheilo of-i’-lo, or (in certain tenses), its prolonged form opheileo of-i-leh’-o probably from the base of 3786 (through the idea of accruing); to owe (pecuniarily); figuratively, to be under obligation (ought, must, should); morally, to fail in duty:–behove, be bound, (be) debt(-or), (be) due(-ty), be guilty (indebted), (must) need(-s), ought, owe, should. See also 3785.
Proverbs 3: 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. 8 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.
Depart: cuwr soor or suwr (Hosea 9:12) {soor}; a primitive root; to turn off (literal or figurative):–be(-head), bring, call back, decline, depart, eschew, get (you), go (aside), X grievous, lay away (by), leave undone, be past, pluck away, put (away, down), rebel, remove (to and fro), revolt, X be sour, take (away, off), turn (aside, away, in), withdraw, be without.
So clearly as stated within the Bible itself we are told not to willingly be part of the world and as I pointed out yesterday in Part 1 per 2 Peter 2 what will be the results:
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
This why this excuse is just that an excuse to deny God and to allow sin to grow in strength not only in the world but in those that call themselves “Christian” and do not do as the Bible instructs them to do. To separate themselves for sinners, especially those that refuse to hear your teaching and refuse to see your example.

On a personal note I wish to inform those reading my posts, especially yesterday’s, that I have come under heavy attack from those that call themselves as of being within the Body to the point of, in a sideways statement, saying that I am lying. Plus they did not follow the correct method’s prescribed to us within the Bible that we must follow and did the attack openly and publicly. They may say I did the same, and they may be right, but the context was different for what I did, so it may have been right or it may not have been and I admit that I may have been wrong in the method I pursued. If they felt I was so wrong and they are truly of the Body then they should have followed the correct methods and maybe I should have as well.
I wish to state that I use only the King James version of the Bible and even that I do not trust fully since it was translated hundreds of years after the original writing were done in both Hebrew and Greek. As a result I use a Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance and also two separate dictionaries.
Now I will admit to the statement that this in my opinion, but it is an opinion formed from thoroughly reading the Bible, analyzing and praying upon the wording to the best of my ability and the insight given me by God through the Holy Spirit. When I quote from the Bible I do not remove or increase what is written. So to imply I am not telling the truth, in my eyes, is calling the Bible a lie and in so doing calling God a liar, which again is something someone of the Body would not do. Now why do I imply they may not be of the Body? They may have been at one time, but their actions speak loudly, and show they are in doubt of their own believes and have not followed the correct methods given to us within the Bible. This implies that they are not as well read on the Bible as they state, which lends toward behavior found by those that have become separate from God. Behavior, I believe, I have been instructed by God to teach unto these that do this for they have become lukewarm for God (Revelation 3: 14-22), and no longer bear fruit for the Him (John 15: 1-6).
I also admit to being direct and even harsh. I will not stop doing so, especially when attacked, but I will remain loyal to my believes that I am a tool of Jesus Christ my savior and the Son of God (Ephesians 2:8-10).
2 Timothy 3: 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

A key element that must change in the Christian faith: “Creationism”

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This key element is those that stick steadfastly to the believe that this planet is only a few thousand years old. This is believed by those that strictly follow what is called “Creationism.”
Now I want to make this perfectly clear. I still believe and adhere to that fact that God did create this planet and all that is upon it as well as the entire universe. I wholeheartedly agree with the creation story listed in Genesis.
Adhering to strict creationism those that follow it, in my eyes, actually limit God. Now how would I make such a statement?
First and foremost creationist state fervently that only this planet is the only thing in the universe, they have since expanded it to this solar system. The mere fact that they must keep expanding it proves it is a man-made doctrine and does not agree with the Bible and is designed to fit the needs of the people purporting it.
I am one that does believe in a Pre-Adamic race and there have been discoveries of humanoid bones that support this. It is this refusal to accept hard evidence that hurts creationist and in turn hurts all Christians everywhere. They call science evil and something to be ignored as coming from those that wish to discredit and remove the reality of God and to some degree that is a true statement. Here is the kicker though, when science is done correctly and sticks to the facts, as it should be done, it actually supports that there is a God.
Simply mathematical science. When you take a look at the odds that this planet would cause not only life but intelligent life throughout the entire huge universe is astronomical, which as I stated above confirms God is real. The Big Bang theory again confirms God for it is exactly how He did it in that moment and as a result 98% of the entire mass of the universe was created in the few moments.
Does this make me a Theist? Yes it does for I believe that limiting God to one tiny speck of a planet throughout the entire universe makes Him as insignificant as a bed bug.
God created the heavens and the stars this means he created galaxies and within them are solar systems and within them are planets, as science has documented. So why limit God to this planet. Why limit God to a few thousand years when there are bones of ancient animals and people found buried deep within the surface of this planet. Do I think the planet is billions of years old? I honestly do not believe so, for I think there is errors in the methods of carbon dating for they are originally based in comparison to the layers of the planet they had to go through and they theorize it is a set amount of time. Yet it has since been document that some layers that can been up to several feet deep happened in a few days due to a volcanic eruption and also due to meteors hitting the earth. Have they then adjusted the carbon dating scale? No they have not. Do they need to do so? Yes they do.
One of the main reasons I feel that carbon dating needs to be revisited is actually found within the Bible in the book of Job 40: 15-19 whose very description is now full confirmed though science to be an Apatosaurus. So if it is walking in biblical times how can carbon dating be accurate?
It is when people challenge the norm is when there is growth in people, in society, in religion. Did not Martin Luther challenge the norm and did not Christian go through a great growth due to it? Yes it did. Did not Galileo challenge the norm and so we went from thinking the earth was the center of the universe to being just one planet within a solar system. Well it is time again for the norm to be challenged and for there to be growth. Why? Because those that oppose God and wish to remove Him from the minds of all humanity are winning at this time. Only through a willingness to challenge what is thought to be normal will we ever grow. Not only in our believes but in our faith in God and for God. For when doing so we will be able to embarrass the fact that this mere speck of a planet is nothing in comparison to God and that very fact that it is so unimportant and yet He took time to place life upon it of all types speaks of how great and glorious He is.
Yet even to contemplate this causes many to run and hide to what is normal, but as they do so we are losing several generations of humankind to those that wish to say there is no God. This to me is acts of selfishness for when you think only of yourself and not of others and of their salvation and of their ability to share in an eternal life that will allow them to explore all of God’s creation which is the entire universe you not only harm them but yourself.
Yet what was normal? A flat planet. Earth is the center of everything. Buying your way into heaven with Indulgences. This solar system was the only one in the entire universe. The universe has always existed exactly the same, forever. Animal sacrifice.
Are they normal now? No they are not. Why is that? Because they were all formed by humans, not God. What has not changed and is continually reinforced? The Bible and in so doing GOD is proven constant and true and real.

To be separate

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We are told in 2 Corinthians chapter 6 to become separate from the world, yet today many “churches” welcome sin into their buildings. The most pronounced version of this was when the Presbyterian Church first renounced any affiliation with the state of Israel and in the same conference allowed gays to join their group. Notice I said “group” not “church,” because the moment the rejected the chosen people of God they turned their back upon the Bible, Jesus Christ and God. This is not separating from the world this is inviting the world into what was once a place of and for God.
We are to be an example unto the world of what is good and righteous in the site of the Lord, yet many “churches” say “come to our place of worship as you are and we as well as God will accept you as you are.” This is calling God a liar.
This is something that has been steadily growing for years. Why? Mainly due to money for they could not financially support their building. Why? Because they stopped teaching the Bible long before they publicly turned their back upon God.
Yes we are called to gather together, but we are to already be followers of God when we do so. We are not to invite those that openly sin into our midst for it will weaken us over time as it has done. It clearly states that when we gather we are to give support and strengthen each other. Why do this if we are already children of God? Because we can fall astray and even fall away from God no longer bearing fruit or even become false visions of Christianity (John 15, Revelation 3). Which is exactly what many if not most in today’s Christendom have become. Why? Because they no longer separating themselves from the world but welcome it into their “churches.”
I highly recommend that people re-read or if they never have read (which I think is a possibility) Revelation chapter 2 and 3 which covers the seven churches or styles of churches as it applies to today’s “churches” and seriously compare them to the churches they are in and see if they see any resembles to their own “church.” If they see any that are called wrong by Jesus then they should leave that group and find a new and true church home.

The “Judgment” card

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Time and again I hear people stating that someone is judging them when they counter what they are saying with facts from the Bible. It basically equates to using the “race” card when you throw a countering opinion against the president of the United States.
If you deal purely in facts from the Bible you are not judging. You are just stating what the Bible says. This is what makes people counter with stating you are judging them when in actuality they sense the truth in your words and so accuse you of judging them when in fact they are judging themselves. They are uncomfortable and feel cornered because deep down they sense the truth in your words.
As long as you stick with the Bible and God and state what is written within it then you are honoring God first as we are told we MUST do. (Matthew 6:33).
More and more people are placing themselves before God and they place others before God. We are told to look to God first and then we are to look to others. If God states something is a sin. Then when you place God first it IS a sin. If you say to someone “go ahead live in sin, but love God” you are telling them to serve two masters, which we are told in verse 24 of the same chapter of Matthew we are not to do. Now here someone will counter “no that verse refers to money.” I counter: is where does money come from? The world. Where does sin come from? Our WORLDLY bodies. (Matthew 15:19-20).
When you embrace sin you embrace the world (2 Corinthians 6:17). So does this mean someone is “judging” because they state these facts? No it does what it is supposed to do. Convict their conscience and make them turn from sin and live in the glory of God, but instead since they threw out the “judgment” card so they are safe to continue to live in their sinful manner, being actors that call themselves “Christian” when in fact they are hypocrites.

The foundation is broken and built upon sand and the floods are destroying this nation

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Within life there are many trials that all must face. As they come toward maturity it can be especially hard. What makes it even harder is when you are missing a foundation to stand upon or even foundations.
One foundation is a parent. Each is a foundation. Another foundation is the Bible for within the Bible there is teaching of what is right and wrong and how to treat your fellows.
Today’s news is filled more and more with children missing at least one if not two of this foundations. Girls stabbing another for a made up character on a computer. Teens going into schools and shooting other teens. More teens beating up teachers. Now today several black kids beating on a white girl and her five year old brother, just because they were white.
What is missing? God and the Bible is missing! Who is to blame? EVERYONE!!!
It is time for God to be returned to school and the Bible to be taught and any that opposes it should be removed from their positions. It is time to get God and the Bible back into homes. It is time for men to marry women instead of having intimate relations out of wedlock and cause unsupervised children to run around beating, stabbing and shooting others just because they feel like it.
They need a foundation and that foundation is God. The very foundation that has been torn out of this nation by those on the left. It is time to stop turning the other cheek and to stand for not only our rights but for the rights of every child that has no idea what is written in the Bible. That we are to place all others before ourselves. That we are not to look down upon others due to race or creed or nationality.
This can only be done by returning to God and by teaching the Bible EVERYWHERE! It is time to silence those that wish to silence God for all they have caused is death, bloodshed and chaos.

The inner conflict

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Now this is not a talk about the inner conflict that people encounter within themselves as they try to decide on how to decide on something, but it is closely related. You can use that analogy and apply it to what I am going to type here.
Within the Body of Christ which is known at the church is millions of people. All pulling in their own direction. It is this behavior that is helping to causing issues. People serving God are placing too much emphasis upon themselves and their own wants and desires and not those of God’s.
It is this which has allowed those that oppose the Bible and God to flourish and grow. They for the most part are joined in a common cause. That cause is to remove God and the Bible from the United States of America. A prime example of this took place in the 2012 Presidential election.
Many that called themselves “Christian” stayed home and did not vote. Just because they did not like that the Republican Party’s nominee was a Mormon. As a result we find this nation in dire straits and many within the “Christian” communities do nothing but complain. What actions have been made to counter these action? From what I can tell none. Why? Because this “group” refuses to work together.
Yes we are all different. Yes many of us have different images of the two political parties that exist within this nation. I myself even though Conservative no longer deem myself to be Republican, but Independent. The thing is I see no person at all in the Democratic Party that is worth supporting due to many elements I have mentioned in other posts.
Do I like how a lot of things are being done in the Republican Party? No. Yet I see a party that at least still acknowledges that there is a God. Did I like the Republican Nominee of 2012? No, but I voted for him, because I feel that until the Democratic Party returns to God they in way should receive my support or my lack of supporting the Republican Party.
This is how ALL that call themselves “Christian” should do as well. Also if they hate how things are in the political arena then they should become active and participate in the system and try to change from the inside out. Not sitting on the sidelines or being armchair politicians.
We are told in the Bible that we should be servants to our nation to be shepherds unto the earth. Yet that is not what is being done. Most go about doing only that which is important to them and not God. This means that they are only acting a part in the play of life and so this acting has allowed those that are not acting to turn this once proud nation into something that cannot be trusted throughout the world. Why? Because those that deemed this nation as evil now run it and are turning it into that for which they say we were, but now are due to them. For only evil can cause evil yet they think themselves righteous in their own eyes for they have been blinded by the lies they have been taught. Because they were not taught that which is true which is the Bible and all that is within the Bible is inspired by God the creator of all things.

The Grey

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In the second and third chapters of Revelation. The apostle John is seeing the divine Christ who is talking to His disciple about seven churches within the young Christian faith at that time. These seven can reflect any group that calls themselves a church. There is a reason for this and it is something that all should read and try to understand even today, well especially today.
In the third chapter Jesus calls members of one of these churches lukewarm. Neither hot nor cold for God and Christ. I myself call them the grey for they are neither hot or white nor are they cold or black, thus they are grey.
Most that call themselves “Christian” in the United States can say this about themselves, but they don’t because they do not see it that it applies to them, but it does.
They do not teach nor do many truly follow the teachings of the Bible. No not even the basics of the Ten Commandments, yet they say they are “Christian.”
This posting is another of my attempts to get the Grey to awaken to their standing with God. Will most not listen? This is a definite, but still these words must be typed and posted like the thesis that Martin Luther posted upon the church door in his time. This is my “thesis.”
If you continue to read that verse to the Laodiceans you will see that Christ admonishes the Grey and says he would rather they be cold for Christ then to be lukewarm for He would spew them out.
So according to this verse if you call yourself “Christian” if you go to church and yet live your life as if God is nothing but a trip to a building once a week, than you are destine to be cast out by Jesus Himself.
To be cast out, do you understand what that means. If you are not welcome in heaven or the eternal life that follows it, then where are you welcome? If you don’t know that answer then you have lived your life in a vacuum.
How can you correct this? You must become hot for God. You must become white and shine His glory to the world and to counter that which is black and dark and evil.
Light is kindness and loving yet shows that if the Bible calls it a sin it is a sin. It does not condone it, it tries to push it into the darkness. When the sun shine can you see this darkness? No you cannot for it is driven away. Yet at night darkness thrives and lives, colors that you can see in the light of the moon become grey.
This nation is in a time of night and darkness. It is time for the sun to rise and the cast out the darkness so that all will be seen pure and clean. But remember there will still be a shadow for not all darkness can be cast out for only one has that power and His name is Jesus Christ.

Revelation 3: 14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Life choices

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Events have transpired lately that reminded me of my past. Events of growth into maturity; and the challenges of finding our place within this world that we must traverse through as we are forged into instruments that can or cannot be used by God. What got me through this time of teenage confusion and messages being shouted at me from all side was the foundation my parents had given me. Of all the elements they did not give this one element they did is the element that finally led me down the path which turned me into a tool for God.
This one important item is an item that is not being given to most of our children. It is an element that is being removed from society and today’s parents for the most part are allowing it. Why? Because they did not receive it themselves. As a result our world as we know it is falling into to chaos and confusion. It is why sin and the acceptance of sin is on the rise. It is why school violence is now the common place instead of the unusual. Ultimately who is responsible for this? Each and every person that does not make it known that these values that were the foundation of the upbringing of generations of citizens of this country the United States of America that it allowed to prosper and grow.
There are those that wish to blame this item for the ills of the world. There are those that wish to say all evil acts that came from this nation were the result of this one item. That would be a lie. For only evil can cause evil and evil only exists when this item is not present to help counter it.
It is those that do not accept what this item offers and represent that cause evil to rise and destroy.
This item offers insight into the human soul. This items allows all to understand that being human is not something we should strive to be, but something that is greater than being human. To attempt, even though we will falter and fall, to reach for the divine and holy. For when you strive to reach for something so pure and wonderful that you yourself become something better than you would ever accomplish by just being human.
For we are taught that only evil emits from a human heart, and what is divine and wondrous can never be found there.
But how can we learn to be above the corruption of humanity? What is this item that can lead us to being better, happier and something to seek after?
It is the Bible and all the teaching that are within, especially those that come directly from Jesus Christ the Son of God who is the divine.

Replies to responses … well response

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The other day I posed a question. At the time I am writing this I am responding to the sole response.
Joseph Rathjen posted:
“Well, what can I say, except that unlike the demon I have felt the true presence of God in my heart and all the good that he stands for. For years, I lived in a spiritual darkness that I knew deep down in my soul was wrong and damaging. It took some time to repent, but I finally realized that having an open and sympathetic heart, being unselfish, learning to be forgiving and unresentful made my life a lot more fulfilling.

So, I guess I can say that being born a Christian didn’t necessarily make me a Christian. Until I experienced his calling and tried to share it with others did I realize what Christianity is all about. I’m not a holy roller or a bible thumper, but I try to show other people in my life (in my own way) his way.

It’s a wicked world we live in so sometimes you have to be a little sneaky. Is that a sin, lol?”

I wouldn’t call it sneaky. I would call it honesty. “Holy rollers” and “bible thumpers” actually turn people from God or more accurately scare them from God.
Those folks are a phase in their growing in God. I can speak of this from personal experience. I would say that the first five or six year after becoming born again I turned into a “holy roller.” Why? It could be due to be so filled with the Holy Spirit that it just over flowed out of me. Since I was not well versed in the Bible and had no real mentors to turn to help me work through this filling of God’s glory that it made more overly “religious.”
Now why did I put quotation marks about that word? It is simple. Religions are the product of man seeking to please God. It is this which Jesus confronted the Pharisees about when he walked the earth. It is religion that placed Him upon the cross, but He knew this and accepted it.
True “Christians” actually should act as you finally learned. They should have an open and sympathetic heart. They should be unselfish, forgiving and unresentful for it is not our place to judge, but Gods. We are to be Jesus’ example upon this earth at this time. The key word is “example.” We are not here to judge, but to help. We are to guide them toward the light and away from sin. How do we do this? By our actions for most do not respond well to words, but when they see your actions they see what true believe in God is and so it makes them at the very least start to think.
We are to be a shining light that shows brightly upon the world. Show the difference between what is Godly and what is human. Does this make you sneaky? No. It makes you a true example of God.

I must also add that being born into a Christian household does not make you one. It is something that is the responsibly of those parents of the household to instill and teach their children, but ultimately it is these children’s own decision if they wish to live in sin or live for God. For each person is only responsible for their own life’s choices.
So again Joseph you are not being sneaky you are being the opposite. You are a walking example of Jesus Christ the Son of God who walked, talked and dined with sinners.